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Started by Lutin, April 26, 2009, 11:46:36 PM

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imaz

Quote from: lisagurl on April 30, 2009, 08:11:40 PM
But the latest polls say that the  majority of religious people have no problem with torture.

Is that in the US? If so that's a majority Christian response.

Unfortunately us Muslims might feel different as it was our brothers in Guantanamo. :)
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Pica Pica

Quote from: lisagurl on April 30, 2009, 08:11:40 PM
But the latest polls say that the  majority of religious people have no problem with torture.

someone was trying to convince me that torture was okay and i was very surprised that they were offended at my calling them a Nutzillah. But anyone who believes in torture as fine and dandy is a Nutzillah - no way around that.
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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Lutin

I wrote an essay last year on torture, and learnt things I wish I didn't know and could forget. The only only only time it's alright is when it's like this.

Monty Python - Spanish Inquisition Torture Scene

RAmen.
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imaz

Quote from: Pica Pica on May 01, 2009, 05:54:23 AM
someone was trying to convince me that torture was okay and i was very surprised that they were offended at my calling them a Nutzillah. But anyone who believes in torture as fine and dandy is a Nutzillah - no way around that.

Well said :)

Unfortunately people can really turn into monsters as the Stanford Prison Experiment showed...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment
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tekla

Unfortunately us Muslims might feel different as it was our brothers in Guantanamo.

However, somehow women and kids in Israel getting zapped by Katruska rockets doesn't seem to bring down any big Islamic condemnation.  That's the trouble with religion, way too subjective.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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NicholeW.

That's the trouble with religion, way too subjective.

True dat! Now add politics (such as it is) and sex and you pretty much have all the things that we get most blind about. :) Suppose that'a why smiting becomes okay and torture too? Ya just don't see things the "right" way? :)

Nichole
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imaz

Quote from: tekla on May 01, 2009, 12:02:45 PM
Unfortunately us Muslims might feel different as it was our brothers in Guantanamo.

However, somehow women and kids in Israel getting zapped by Katruska rockets doesn't seem to bring down any big Islamic condemnation.  That's the trouble with religion, way too subjective.

A hundred eyes for an eye, that's Israeli justice. Check the body count.

Same goes for Iraq, a couple of thousand die in 9/11 so why not lets go and invade the place and cause hundreds of thousands of deaths.

They're only Arabs after all...

It's "Katyusha" BTW.
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tekla

Oh my name it is nothin'
My age it means less
The country I come from
Is called the Midwest
I's taught and brought up there
The laws to abide
And that land that I live in
Has God on its side.

Oh the history books tell it
They tell it so well
The cavalries charged
The Indians fell
The cavalries charged
The Indians died
Oh the country was young
With God on its side.

Oh the Spanish-American
War had its day
And the Civil War too
Was soon laid away
And the names of the heroes
I's made to memorize
With guns in their hands
And God on their side.

Oh the First World War, boys
It closed out its fate
The reason for fighting
I never got straight
But I learned to accept it
Accept it with pride
For you don't count the dead
When God's on your side.

When the Second World War
Came to an end
We forgave the Germans
And we were friends
Though they murdered six million
In the ovens they fried
The Germans now too
Have God on their side.

I've learned to hate Russians
All through my whole life
If another war starts
It's them we must fight
To hate them and fear them
To run and to hide
And accept it all bravely
With God on my side.

But now we got weapons
Of the chemical dust
If fire them we're forced to
Then fire them we must
One push of the button
And a shot the world wide
And you never ask questions
When God's on your side.

In a many dark hour
I've been thinkin' about this
That Jesus Christ
Was betrayed by a kiss
But I can't think for you
You'll have to decide
Whether Judas Iscariot
Had God on his side.

So now as I'm leavin'
I'm weary as Hell
The confusion I'm feelin'
Ain't no tongue can tell
The words fill my head
And fall to the floor
If God's on our side
He'll stop the next war


Bob Dylan, 1963
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Lutin

ANYWAY, back to the H1N1 influenza, it's not as bad (at the moment) as many other illnesses, but neither is it a walk in the park. And I hate the media hype about it - yes, it's serious, but I doubt cool, collected, objective reporting of WHO updates caused Perth pharmacies to run out of facemasks...
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tekla

There is no media hype about it if you don't let the media into your home.  Blow up your TV. 
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Lutin

There'd still be media hype, you just wouldn't experience it as much, although with all the talk about it at work, in the streets etc. you're not going to be able to avoid it. That's part of the whole success of media hype, it's incredibly hard to avoid, it spreads through people, and panic, like the flu, is contagious. It doesn't take much to get a group of people going, no matter what precautions individual members of said group take to avoid it. The writers of Men in Black had a point when they wrote "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals, and you know it"... Not that I'm saying people here are stupid or whatever, just that media hype is hard to avoid, and can be dangerous on group mentality.

Though blowing up TVs sounds like fun...
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imaz

Just gone out and bought 100 face masks! Wondering whether to wear one on the London Underground today?
Should get me a seat pretty quickly! ;D
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Lachlann

I'm sick with the flu. It's not this strain, I don't think... still, better safe than sorry.
Don't be scared to fly alone, find a path that is your own
Love will open every door it's in your hands, the world is yours
Don't hold back and always know, all the answers will unfold
What are you waiting for, spread your wings and soar
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Miniar

An alternative to blowing up the TV = Don't watch the news.



"Everyone who has ever built anywhere a new heaven first found the power thereto in his own hell" - Nietzsche
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Cindy

Imaz

Particularly if you carry a little stuffed pig :laugh:

CJ
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imaz

Actually I'm not feeling that good the last couple of days... :o
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Reese

This school about a block away from my house is closed down for seven days because one of its students, who recently went to Mexico, has the flu.

Heh, well...
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imaz

Well, my son and ex wife did come back from Mexico in January! ;D
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Annwyn

I'm more worried about zombies taking over the globe than swine flu.

All I can say is someone way up in the pharmaceutical business is making big bucks off of promoting swine flu this much.

Probably someone with the brand name medicines Relenza or Tamiflu.
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Michelle.

News services, Fox Radio, are reporting first confirmed death in Texas.

I've read that the greater fear at this time is the South American winter. This "bug" has the oppurtunity to travel south for winter. Mutate into a super-bug, and come roaring back into North America for the fall/winter flu season.

An ominus parrell to the 1918 pandemic that killed close to 100 million people. Thank God we have some time to devolope a vaccine. 

Hoorray for capitalism and free-market medicine/pharmocuticals.

note to self: research bio-tech type co. tomorrow.
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