Wow i'd kill to look like any of those girls, but at the same time i'm ok with wat i got (will have, realistically).

Claire xoxo

Quote from: Alyssa M. on June 11, 2009, 01:16:54 AM
hey, look, she has middle brown slightly wavy hair and moderately dark eyes and full eyebrows and a light olive complexion and a few freckles and high cheekbones and a strong nose that turns down just a bit and a fairly strong jawline and chin just like me!!!

I absolutely agree with you that she looks just like you. To me, she looks androgynous.

Barbie~~

Thank you, my dear, but it's a little bit empty since I have never posted a picture of myself (except for one that is not exactly revealing) -- my profile picture is of Lynn Hill, a famous rock climber, one of the best in the world, whom I would love to resemble even more than I'd love to resemble Ms. Buendchen.

But she is indeed a bit androgynous -- which is often what makes a woman beautiful.

To Cassie09:

God, yes, Hon.  Do it ALL the time ... and end up really bumming out over it.  Just like Alyssa M. said above about dreaming about looking like Gisele Buendchen, heck, yes!  I'd transact "The Faustian Bargain" (selling your soul to The Devil) to look like Gisele Buendchen!!!

I'm just beginning the process of transitioning, and I certainly do have Delusions of Grandeur and Dreams of Gorgeousness ... and know full darned well that it just ain't gonna happen.   Sigh ... !

You're not the only one who does this kind of dreaming, Hon, by no means.  Cool topic to bring up, by the way.  Good luck to you in your transition.

Quote from: Kristi on June 05, 2009, 09:16:27 PM
I had this odd fantasy of wanting to look like Olivia Newton John in Grease. 

Kristi

Sandra Dee ( early in the movie ) or the one that goes "Hey Stud!!!!"

Look at me, I'm Sandra Dee, lousy with virginity
Won't go to bed till I'm legally wed, I can't, I'm Sandra Dee
Watch it, hey, I'm Doris Day, I was not brought up that way
Won't come across, even Rock
Hudson lost his heart to Doris Day
I don't drink or swear, I won't rat my hair,
I get ill from one cigarette
Keep your filthy paws off my silky drawers.
Would you pull that crap with Annette?
As for you, Troy Donahue, I know what you wanna do
You got your crust, I'm no object of lust,
I'm just plain Sandra Dee Elvis,
Elvis, let me be, keep that pelvis far from me
Just keep your cool, now you're starting to drool
Hey, fungu, I'm Sandra Dee

Quote from: Alyssa M. on June 11, 2009, 12:45:16 PM
Thank you, my dear, but it's a little bit empty since I have never posted a picture of myself (except for one that is not exactly revealing) -- my profile picture is of Lynn Hill, a famous rock climber, one of the best in the world, whom I would love to resemble even more than I'd love to resemble Ms. Buendchen.

I believe what you say 

Barbie~~

I think sexuality itself is essentially delusional, except the purpose of reproduction. Most women are also delusional (women are more interested in my body shape than men).

Buddhism teaches us that everything in our world is delusional  .

Barbie~~

Quote from: daisybelle on June 11, 2009, 03:47:52 PM
Sandra Dee ( early in the movie ) or the one that goes "Hey Stud!!!!"

Oh I like the idea of being both.  I think that is one of the awesome things about Sandy.

Kristi

Hormones make some individuals dilusional and the prediction is never quite the same as the reality. The longer you are in transition the more level headed you become and come to terms with the limitations.

I always knew I wouldn't be a size 4 or look like Angelina Jolie after transition.

Quote from: Naturally Blonde on June 14, 2009, 05:17:33 AM
Hormones make some individuals dilusional and the prediction is never quite the same as the reality. The longer you are in transition the more level headed you become and come to terms with the limitations.

I don't think it's just the hormones.  We want to be some unattainable ideal.   But don't lots of people?  Why do they sell so many magazines about celebreties?

I agree with your second statement, and that's why you don't get GRS on the second day of full-time.  It takes a while to learn to be the new you and to adjust your expectations.

- Kate

Quote from: Pia on June 14, 2009, 05:23:59 AM
I always knew I wouldn't be a size 4 or look like Angelina Jolie after transition.

In my case, even if I attained them, I would be stilll an imitation woman. Today I wore size 2 capris. While I exercised along a beach here, women watched me in awe and young men smiled at me.

What do I want? I am not quite sure, but I always try to wear bolder and bolder fashion items. My next step is to wear an athletic bra in the beach. Endless...

Barbie~~

Quote from: K8 on June 14, 2009, 07:41:21 AM
I don't think it's just the hormones.  We want to be some unattainable ideal.   But don't lots of people?  Why do they sell so many magazines about celebreties?

I agree with your second statement, and that's why you don't get GRS on the second day of full-time.  It takes a while to learn to be the new you and to adjust your expectations.

- Kate

I know this is going off topic but to reply to your post K8:

GRS on the second day of what? I've been FT for about 6 or 7 years and I complied with all the protocols and the HBSOC.  I was refused a GRS referral by a U.K's NHS Clinic without explanation. I then went to a different part of the NHS and got a referral the same afternoon as the appointment.

In the U.K they do not guage things on how passable you are and do not seem to have any criteria as to who they choose for referrals to matter what the circumstances.

I just wish that the USA had programs that would let us get GRS.  To raise the money, in this economy and with a limited income, is hard.  And the health care system still thinks that GRS is elective cosmetic surgery, despite the AMA resolution 122.

It is really the only thing that I have left.  Well except maybe an orchie in between.

Janet

I try to be hopeful with hrt results but at the same time realistic. I really try to not have any expectations at all and just be happy with anything I get that's in the right direction, but of course we are going to have some expectations. I'd like to think I've got this whole Emmylou Harris thing going on- I look nothing like her of course but I have similar hair and a slender build and love wearing long skirts. I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to emulate someone whose looks you admire, as long as you don't really expect to get mistaken for him/her on the street (here in Nashville, that might actually be possible with Emmylou but it ain't gonna happen for me).

Quote from: Janet Lynn on June 15, 2009, 09:50:10 AM
I just wish that the USA had programs that would let us get GRS.  To raise the money, in this economy and with a limited income, is hard.  And the health care system still thinks that GRS is elective cosmetic surgery, despite the AMA resolution 122.

It is really the only thing that I have left.  Well except maybe an orchie in between.

Janet

AMA 122 huh? Well I bookmarked the pdf I found.

I used to work at Highmark Blue Shield- a really big medical insurance company over here- and I have a fair idea of what to do in order to convince them to change their coverage plans (or anyone else's plans for that matter). If I ever get around to getting health insurance, that is. 

Quote from: Naturally Blonde on June 15, 2009, 09:07:30 AM
I know this is going off topic but to reply to your post K8:

GRS on the second day of what? I've been FT for about 6 or 7 years and I complied with all the protocols and the HBSOC.  I was refused a GRS referral by a U.K's NHS Clinic without explanation. I then went to a different part of the NHS and got a referral the same afternoon as the appointment.

In the U.K they do not guage things on how passable you are and do not seem to have any criteria as to who they choose for referrals to matter what the circumstances.

Dear Naturally Blonde,
I'm sorry I wasn't clear.  I was agreeing with your previous statement, that our expectations gradually become more realistic as we continue through transition.  Therefore, we need to spend more than two days transitioning.

I'm sorry you have been at this so long without resolution.  I don't understand the UK system.  (I don't even understand the American system that well. )  Don't you have to get a referral from your therapist?  Perhaps you can talk to your therapist to find out what was in the referral.  It is awful if you were turned down but were given no indication of why.

- Kate

And now, back to our regular programming...

Quote from: K8 on June 15, 2009, 03:54:01 PM
Dear Naturally Blonde,
I'm sorry I wasn't clear.  I was agreeing with your previous statement, that our expectations gradually become more realistic as we continue through transition.  Therefore, we need to spend more than two days transitioning.

I'm sorry you have been at this so long without resolution.  I don't understand the UK system.  (I don't even understand the American system that well. )  Don't you have to get a referral from your therapist?  Perhaps you can talk to your therapist to find out what was in the referral.  It is awful if you were turned down but were given no indication of why.

- Kate

And now, back to our regular programming...

Hi Kate, I don't understand the U.K system either and never will.  Over here we have psychiatrists and they pick and choose who they want to make a referral no matter if they comply with the HBSOC or not. In my case I was living full time for many years and did comply with the HBSOC but still refused a referral for GRS from a well known NHS london gender identity clinic despite the fact that I had attended for 6 years. But by going to a different psychiatrist at a different clinic I was able to get a referral without any problem on the same day.

In the U.K we are totally controled by the mental health psychiatrists (especially if you go the NHS route)  and it leads to many attempted or fatal suicide cases if they are refused referrals by the psychiatrists. I knew a girl who had a good job and looked like a babe and totally intergrated as a female who was refused a referral, she did attempt suicide but she is thankfully ok now. Then you get the one's who the psychiatrists do give referrals to who do not live Full time, don't intergrate and only socialise in safe selected T venue's and not in everyday situations. I will never understand the U.K system.

It sounds like some of the mental health people are playing god and doing it for their own benefit rather than for the benefit of their patients. 

I had to try three different therapists before I found one who could help me.  The first two were OK for a few sessions but we couldn't get further.  The one I have now is wonderful.

I'm glad you got a referral finally.

*hugs*
Kate