No I'm willing to bet that most self-employed people are more responsible and have more obligations than to blow $52000 a year on clothing.

The Seventies look was fantastic. Polyester suits, bells, zipper boots , pageboys, and lots of gold chains. Pete Rose had this look down to a "T".

Quote from: Annwyn D'Fenwyr on July 20, 2009, 01:13:17 AM
The elephant/waterfall scene in your avi reminds me of bukakke.


Disturbing.

Wow you are really perverted. 






I thought the same thing first time I saw it 

Quote from: Wendy on July 19, 2009, 10:23:31 AM
Hi Ell.   Hope you have been well!

i have been well, tt. it is good to hear that you are working. congratulations.

No one is touching this. Was Pete Rose a gender outlaw?

Quote from: xsocialworker on July 27, 2009, 09:10:49 PM
No one is touching this. Was Pete Rose a gender outlaw?

Pete Rose is in a different league than many of us.  He was and remains an extrovert with a lot of money and fame.  He messed up with his gambling but was a colorful character that could do what he wanted.  Famous people can and do push gender bounds.  Rock stars do many things that are accepted by their fans but "average Joes" could not do the same things without negative feedback. Even different ethnic groups can do various gender things that are not accepted by other ethnic groups.  Stud diamond earrings are straight male for some ethnic groups and not straight male for other ethnic groups.  Yeah Pete Rose helps break the gender boundaries but he could get away with it.  Society can and does impose a social death on those it deems outside of their accepted societal norms. Rock stars, movie stars and entertainers are allowed to be more expressive.

Gambling got him> Beside now he is fat and bald and the pink polyester suits, high heeled boots, and pageboy hair-cut are long gone

Jeans for sure, also tank tops and t-shirts can go unnoticed, depending on the size you wear. Also, I wear women's sunglasses because I think they're more stylish.

Quote from: Jessica Who on July 30, 2009, 10:53:35 AM
Jeans for sure, also tank tops and t-shirts can go unnoticed, depending on the size you wear. Also, I wear women's sunglasses because I think they're more stylish.

I also wear women jean, and Tee's also solid color polo shirts, and never got a second look.

Jane L

Today I purchased a black blouse for women.

This week, I saw two ladies who wear a blouse in the street. One was wearing a dark blouse with trousers. She was so slim, and the plain blouse alone made her look so sexy to me.

Another lady was wearing yellow blouse with a knee high skirt. She was also so slim, and indeed looked sexy.

I checked whether summer blouses are a trend here, but it did not seem so. The two women looked sexy but still intelligent. They walked upright.

So, I purchased a plain blouse.

Barbie~~

Quote from: Jessica Who on July 30, 2009, 10:53:35 AM
Jeans for sure, also tank tops and t-shirts can go unnoticed, depending on the size you wear. Also, I wear women's sunglasses because I think they're more stylish.

I wear stylish blue female prescription glasses.  I like them and get a lot of compliments for wearing them.  It works and I am happy.

I like tank tops and t-shirts but I only wear an over-sized t-shirt over a button down.  I have had mixed results in public when I try things that are dramatic.

I present male at work and my well educated friends are nice and they seem oblivious. 

I wear girl's jeans all the time and no one says anything (although I don't wear the ones with the rhinestone lined pockets very often).  They're more tight than the ones in barbie's pic, but not super tight.  They're a little loose in the rear because i have no ass (sadly ).

For shoes you can definitely get away with wearing women's sneakers if you can find them in your size.  I have the bizarre situation of wearing size 10.5 mens and size 10 womens.  Yes you read that correctly .

Tops are harder -- I tend to go for the more obviously girly stuff so at the moment i don't really have anything that I could wear in boymode and not get looks for...

I guess if you guys are going the glasses route then I can go the shoes + earrings route.

Wear womens shoes every single day of my life. Of course, at work I wear tennis shoes so it doesn't really matter. Mens shoes don't fit by the way. All are to wide.

Wear womens earrings every single day.

Sometimes I wear a girdle.

The only thing anybody has ever commented on is my lavender colored umbrella. Everybody here mistakenly thinks its pink. I truely don't understand how humans got through the bottleneck back in prehistory. It must have been dumb luck or they actually listened to a transsexual instead of stoning them to death. Probably listened to the transsexual and then stoned them to death.

Quote from: Ketsy on August 04, 2009, 11:05:51 PM
For shoes you can definitely get away with wearing women's sneakers if you can find them in your size.  I have the bizarre situation of wearing size 10.5 mens and size 10 womens. 

Ketsy I wear a 10 wide men's sneaker.  An 11 women's sneaker is long enough but not even a 12 will compensate for the width.  I would wear women's sneakers if they were wide enough.

Quote from: ginger39 on August 04, 2009, 11:41:22 PM
Wear womens earrings every single day.

Sometimes I wear a girdle.

My family made a big deal about earrings so that I do not wear them.

I can wear a spandex corset.  People think it is a back support.  A lace corset would be great for waist training and dieting but my top gets too big and I am not able to hide the corset under the clothes during the day.  In the winter I sleep with a lace corset to help train my waist and control my weight.  It is uncomfortable at night but it works better than nothing to control my appetite.

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By the way culturally clothes and styles change.  Back in the 1800's military officers frequently corseted to be ramrod straight and keep a small waist when mounted on a horse. 

Quote from: Wendy on July 19, 2009, 10:23:31 AMMy girlfriend goes around in conservative female clothing.  She has a male face but beautiful hair and once in a while someone gets confused.  However she could care less what people think.  She is out and goes by her male name.  She is very comfortable with herself.  That is nice.

Quote from: Annwyn D'Fenwyr on July 19, 2009, 01:04:18 PMYou're switching from one extreme to another and society isn't at the point yet where it readily accepts in betweens.

Life doesn't have to be comprised of "extremes" Annwyn, life is what you make of it, indeed who is it we're trying to impress anyway? Being comfortable "within ones own skin" really is the whole point isn't it?

Being young you are still a slave to "norms & convention" but then again that's ok too, it's not yer fault and is something you will eventually get over!

       Wendy and anyone else in Androgony land ............................... To start with, I'm 6-3 . I weigh bout 200 and I wear a size 12-13W . Im 20-22 top and 16-18 skirt or dresses. Oh I need at least a 33 " inseam as I simply refuse to wear the high water slacks that women wear these days . I beleive they're refered to as Capri Pants  , (UGG )  You will see me around the cty in Shorts at a decent lenth, belted trousers, no elsastic waists. and " Men Style " womens shirts at work. Meanwhile I wear full womens underware and I wear Support hose or tights in the winter to help with poor blood circulation . See, I started as a Crossdresser but I knew all along I was trans . Still, Im good as a Professional driver so I dress apperoperatly. I'm always finding the Shirts at the better womens department stores that are Male looking . Stll , Im never questioned and I do work around a lot of Red- Neck types . As for shoes the lady that mentioned sport shoes is a good one . Try seeing what Payless. com has for sale too . Ellen Shaver

You can't go wrong with a well-fitting pair of stretch jeans and a nice ribbed turtleneck. I love this pair of jeans I bought on clearance from Newport New that has a sewn-in lycra pantie. But it's easy put together clothes like this. All my Ts come from the lady's side of the isle. I usually wear women's athletic shoes that aren't very gender defining. I find it very easy to find non-defining women's clothes.

I don't even own any men's underwear anymore. I'll often wear a bralette that adds a subtle chest protrusions when I'm going more andro. With careful shopping you can eventually find yourself essentially being a full-timer and not really appear to "cross dress". This has essentially been my how my sort of "transition" has happened over the years. I still associate with friends who see me as a man, but with my hair length/style and andro/womenswear clothes, I'm probably taken for a woman in public a good deal of the time, I think, even when I'm not actually trying.

Lyric

At school I always used to wear women's trousers and shirts to school and nobody noticed... You can totally wear women's tee's out too and they just look feminine, but I guess people kinda assume they're mens... funny that x]
Shoes too! Women's trainers are like way nicer than men's most of the time and more colourful [: You can always wear them and get away with it [: In fact, I don't think I even have any actual mens shoes... If I'm not crossdressed people just don't twig that they're womens [:

In my job I must look all male, so tights & panties under normal male trousers is as far as I can go.  Weekends I wear leisure gear, and in the Summer, shorts.   I have female shorts, which in dark colours look just shorter than mens' ones, and under a teeshirt walking my German Shepherd dog down our country road one lovely hot morning I attracted no attention.   That was hardly 'coming out', though.   I didn't seek to look at all feminine, I just like the feel of those short girly shorts.

I wear mostly all lasses Sports wear , Some people have looked at some of my clothes , but not said anything .

Also plenty of Fashionable Jeans/Tops out there now that wouldnt get you noticed .

Sally