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Jokes and "Comedy"....are we that funny???!

Started by wannalivethetruth, October 12, 2009, 04:29:52 PM

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wannalivethetruth

 ::) First off... i want to say... if you read my last post " Moms boyfriend, and he's moving in really soon! BUT DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT ME~!!HELP!"
SHE TOLD! so.. I'm happy about that..... :)

NOW~...i would like to touch on some basic issue with TV and comedy against LBGT community. I was watching a show earlier today and it had some "so called humor against Gays and Lesbians"...I personally did not like it at all >:( , and honestly i felt offensive by it, because we really don't have that many tv shows (if any) To give off the awareness that IT IS OKAY TO BE GAY!

I just want to know, what are your feelings about TV sitcoms or movies that expresses the LBGT community in a negative way ?
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heatherrose



With few exceptions TV (no pun) causes brain plaque.



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Mischa

Comedy is a funny thing (pun indented  :D ) and when it comes to the LGBT community it's like every other community, we get joked about. I know I may get crap for it but comedy is just that, Comedy. I don't take it personal, I see it as a way look at a situation in light of the circumstances and just have a laugh. many times if you analyze the joke, the performer makes the societal view of the particular community look like the nut jobs, while in other instances they just make asses out of themselves. 
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Asfsd4214

I can't get angry at jokes at our expense. We shouldn't expect society to be at all times completely guarded against saying anything that could be construed as politically incorrect.

Humor is extremely subjective, and yes, a lot of people find jokes at our expense funny. When someone makes light of a condition that rules and ruins your life pre-transition, it's hard not to get upset. I've certainly experienced harmless comments by even very politically correct people who would probably feel terrible if they knew I found it hurtful, but that's my problem, not theirs. I don't expect or even want people to censor themselves out of fear of offending me.

And most of the time, people just don't know any better. I can't blame them for that. I don't think it's possible to truly understand what it's like to be trans unless you are. You can read descriptions, hear anecdotes, but there's a part of it that you can't describe in words. Most people have an ignorant and overly simplistic view of gender, simply because they've never had reason to think about it. So they don't understand us, and misrepresent us because of it. I can't really get mad at them for being ignorant.
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Jester

I think everyone should make jokes at their own expense, and be able to take it when people make jokes about them.
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Nicky

I think we are a pretty funny bunch. I laugh at myself a lot.

The question I would think about it whether the funny stuff was balanced by some realistic depictions in media. As long as it is not done in a derogetory way (just look at british comedy - it is loaded with queer references which I don't think are derogetory at all, just a culturaly acceptable way to talk about queer people).

I can think of heaps of shows and cartoons where being gay is ok - e.g. Ugly Betty, Telly Tubbies, Skins, Eddie Izzard, Simpsons, Americas next top model, queer eye for the straight guy, L word, family guy, American dad..to name a few. 

What we don't see a lot of is transgender stuff, but I think it is on the rise.
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V M

Have you considered that many of the folks making the jokes are queer. Heck the queer folks have most of the best queer jokes out there.

I'm not very good at telling jokes. But the gay man at a bar one night who told this one and several others had everyone rollin' and buyin' him drinks

Why'd the gay guy cross the road?.....

To meet his boyfriend ya silly!!!

Live, Love, Laugh.....Sometimes humor is the best medicine  :icon_chick:
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Quote from: Nicky on October 12, 2009, 06:07:50 PM
I think we are a pretty funny bunch. I laugh at myself a lot.

:D  I love you, Nicky!

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wannalivethetruth

Quote from: Virginia Marie on October 12, 2009, 06:42:46 PM
Have you considered that many of the folks making the jokes are queer. Heck the queer folks have most of the best queer jokes out there.

I'm not very good at telling jokes. But the gay man at a bar one night who told this one and several others had everyone rollin' and buyin' him drinks

Why'd the gay guy cross the road?.....

To meet his boyfriend ya silly!!!

Live, Love, Laugh.....Sometimes humor is the best medicine  :icon_chick:


With Exceptions, of course!....BUT i dont think the LBGT community is ready for that... you wouldn't necessarily talk about Slaves, working in the fields during slavery time! To me, we don't have that strong voice yet to be able to speak out loud like we want to, and jokes and such isn't making people view us any different
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placeholdername

A lot of the humor about LGBT people on 'mainstream' TV has nothing to do with there being something funny about LGBT people, the humor is in revealing how uncomfortable most straight people are with non-heterosexuality.  Think about it the next time you see a joke on an NBC sitcom or whatever about gay people and you'll see what I mean.
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