O.K., so I've been working with this STP for a week now and instead of doing better I'm doing worse. I must fail at biology because I just can't get it positioned just right with my urethra. Any advise guys?

I have problems sometimes. I find that I have to really control my pee... can't just "let it go" so to speak.

I also find that you need the spoon opening further back then you first think.

Also square end type ones don't work for me, only rounded ones.

Yep, I'd bet money your not back far enough. Put it as far back until your almost going inside and let your natural skin "hug" the STP if you will. And your body will make a natural seal and it should work then.

Quote from: Nick Aiden on October 08, 2009, 08:39:52 AM
Yep, I'd bet money your not back far enough. Put it as far back until your almost going inside and let your natural skin "hug" the STP if you will. And your body will make a natural seal and it should work then.

I'll try that, even though I'm already putting it inside. Damn it! Why do our urethras have to be so far back! It's just so wrong.

It's normal!  It took me more than several weeks, and just when I'd think I had it, I'd have another issue.

This sounds gross, but is helpful: Actually feel around down there to find your urethral papilla.  It's like a little bump.  You know when you found it because you can do a Kegel and feel it move.  Or, you can sit on the toilet and poke around down there and feel exactly where the pee comes out.  Knowing  what you're feeling for when placing the spoon helps you place it correctly.

And as time passes while you're on T, and your junk grows, you'll need to adjust your placement technique because it seems the urethra moves.  I'm having more problems now that my dick is larger than I ever had when it was very small.

And holding back your stream a bit does help.  That way if you need to reposition, you only let a few drops loose and shouldn't embarrass yourself.

Jay

Kegel? What's that.

Yes, I'm finding positioning to be very difficult with my junk in the way. The first time I used the STP I stuck my junk right in it thinking that would work. Oops.

Radar- who fails at female body urethra location.

When you're peeing on the toilet, start and stop your stream of urine.  The muscles you contract to stop your urine flow are the ones you want to contract = Kegel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kegel_exercise


Jay

Gotcha. Thanks.

Another question. Is it common for an STP's receptacle to detach from the tubing or is this a job for super glue?

Superglue.  Definitely.

It's not hard to get off when you need to change the tubing, either.  I do that every few months.


Jay

Quote from: sneakersjay on October 08, 2009, 03:40:36 PM
Superglue. Definitely.

That's what I thought.
I love the packy but this STP is being a little .

Quote from: sneakersjay on October 08, 2009, 03:40:36 PM
It's not hard to get off when you need to change the tubing, either. I do that every few months.

What store do you think has the best tubing in the correct circumference?

I found some at Home Depot but it's smaller than ideal.  I have the mango so the opening is smaller than a medicine spoon.  I'm not sure how large their tube sizes are.


Jay

Hmm... I bought one of the DJ's STPs years ago and, after repeated trying and practicing and repositioning and all that happy whatnot and ending up with nothing but urine all over myself every time, I gave up. I go to a college now with a student population of over 20,000; I'm sure around half of them are male, and there are always at least five other guys in the men's room every time I go in and find my way to a stall. No one has ever said a word to me. Unless you feel like being able to use the STP is part of your identity as a guy, if you can't get it, don't worry about it. Nobody minds if you use a stall... and I know plenty of bio-guys who prefer to sit, rather than using a urinal.

SD

Quote from: Sebastien on October 08, 2009, 11:43:28 PM
Hmm... I bought one of the DJ's STPs years ago and, after repeated trying and practicing and repositioning and all that happy whatnot and ending up with nothing but urine all over myself every time, I gave up. I go to a college now with a student population of over 20,000; I'm sure around half of them are male, and there are always at least five other guys in the men's room every time I go in and find my way to a stall. No one has ever said a word to me. Unless you feel like being able to use the STP is part of your identity as a guy, if you can't get it, don't worry about it. Nobody minds if you use a stall... and I know plenty of bio-guys who prefer to sit, rather than using a urinal.

SD

Yeah, this. Never got the hang of it and haven't needed to. I do occasionally think I should get round to it, but meh, life's too busy atm. Maybe later.

But, you know, if it is important to you, then by all means spend the time. It's definitely not essential though. I've never had a raised eyebrow from using stalls and sitting.

Dennis

Yeah, I really do want to learn how to do this. I'm doing better thanks to Jay's biology lesson. It will just take practice and time.

As for stalls, I've been told by cisguys that many of them prefer to use the stalls to pee over the urinals. No problems if the stalls have doors, but not all men's rooms do. It would be nice to be able to pee standing up at the toilet or urinal- though I'd prefer the toilet.

You could try practicing in the shower if you don't mind cleaning it more often.

Quote from: Ians Tentacles on October 17, 2009, 03:25:51 PMYou could try practicing in the shower if you don't mind cleaning it more often.

Been doing that. It's weird because I'll have one good day where I'll totally get it every time, but most days it's just a mess. I'm wondering if I need a bigger receptacle.

I had that issue sometimes.... It was like I had to "hold back" and pee really slowly. Then I'd get confident and just pee... and end up over-filling the spoon.

I did find this though.

And although I don't want to spam this topic, I bought one and it did help with that problem. The tubing is pretty big though, so I'm going to work on overcoming that.

Tay, that receptacle looks like it might help me better.

I'll pee really slowly and still get a mess everywhere. When I don't use the STP my urine tends to spray out like a sprinkler anyway- I can't have just a normal stream. I'm going to keep trying, even though my urethra is retarded.

Quote from: sneakersjay on October 08, 2009, 03:40:36 PM
Superglue.  Definitely.

It's not hard to get off when you need to change the tubing, either.  I do that every few months.


Jay

Jay could you please email me off line. Thanks. I just want to thank you for some info you posted and to ask a question. I tried to email you but is said I can't.
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Another trick I learned that seems to help is to pay attention to the angle at which you hold the spoon.  You may need to point it down further than feels natural.  I experimented with holding the receptacle of my STP under a stream of water and watching how the angle affected the flow.

Interestingly enough, I do pretty well with just a medicine spoon, but I have trouble with the (homemade) STP.  Just adding that little bit of tubing seems to make it want to back up more.  That, and if I get the angle wrong it starts going glug, glug glug, instead of giving me a steady stream.  Now that's going to stand out as strange at the urinal.    Anyway, my point is, you might want to try just a medicine spoon for a while.