Smoking to change my voice and maybe give me bad skin.
Not really washing my face in hope of getting spots and rougher skin.

I also have done the fauxhawk thing.

Quote from: CodyJess on November 03, 2009, 01:39:34 PM
I started smoking again, because it makes my voice raspier and makes it easier for me to pass (I know, terrible, but it stops me from looking like I'm 14).
I'm glad I have mild facial acne, because it makes my skin look rougher.

Both of these.

I also have started talking a lot less than I used to, because I recently heard a recording of my voice and was horrified by how girly I sounded. X_x
Bound with sports tape so I could wear an open shirt (strips pulling them to the side but nothing in the very front) and then being impatient to take the tape off. I now have a scar from that. (complements the SI scars...except not. >< )

This got longer than I expected it to 

I'll chalk myself up for binding with duct tape and cutting my own hair. Only recently did I actually manage to scrounge up the $20 to get that disaster fixed...

Fauxhawk, Whats that? I obviously never had one since my hair has been long enough to sit on since 7th grade.

Quote from: CodyJess on November 06, 2009, 01:44:42 PM
This got longer than I expected it to 

that's what he said!

I've done the whole mascara'd on sideburns lol! And had a fauxhawk! And lowered my voice, so I sound like a butch lesbian with a rather bad cold 

I asked a few of my friends to use male pronouns when we're in our own little group... Didn't cause a problem until we decided to visit a hot spring. Since I still hadn't bought a binder, I was using packing tape over a sports bra (so no skin ripped), which gave me a crackly, bulgy barrel chest when my shirt got wet.  We had to share the hot tub-sized spring with a handful of strangers, who got confused-as-hell looks on their mugs when my two friends kept referring to me as "he." Hahahaha... I stayed low in the water and tried not to talk to much, so as not to give myself away. Didn't work anyhow. Nobody asked what the deal was, though. 

-Needlessly picked on other guys for being feminine as a way of overcompensating for my penislessness. (You don't have to be a jerk to assert yourself as a man.)

In a way, though, it seems that pointing out the stereotypically 'feminine' habits of other guys sometimes opens people's eyes a wee bit. All my life I've been called a '->-bleeped-<-got' and a 'pussy' for having certain habits and mannerisms that are femme, but the truth of the matter is, most of the 'straight' cismales I've befriended are just as 'girly' as I am, in one way or another, just scrutinized less for not having as many 'girl' appearance-markers.

-Acted like an ->-bleeped-<-/been a creep at times around chicks because it's the 'guy' thing to do. (It's fun, but really? Come on. What are you, 15?)

-Don't talk about my feelings, (hurr, ah um a mahyon, we don't talk about our feelings! Mahyon is legion!) because I'm afraid it'll stamp me as a whiny sensitive 'my feelings this my feelings that' Girl Type. Suffer in silence instead.

-Tried to get away with binding with medical tape EVERY DAY constantly so I could wear open face shirts. Have scars up my lower back/chest because of this.

-Forced myself while working even though I knew my body couldn't take it, because I didn't want to be seen as a 'weakling' (it's not manly to admit you have pain, hurr), ended up with a knee injury.

Quote from: Alistair on November 06, 2009, 02:41:14 PM
Faux Hawk:

Yep, like that. There are different styles too.

<--- like my avatar.

Quote from: Cairus on November 06, 2009, 08:10:11 PM
-Needlessly picked on other guys for being feminine as a way of overcompensating for my penislessness. (You don't have to be a jerk to assert yourself as a man.)

In a way, though, it seems that pointing out the stereotypically 'feminine' habits of other guys sometimes opens people's eyes a wee bit. All my life I've been called a '->-bleeped-<-got' and a 'pussy' for having certain habits and mannerisms that are femme, but the truth of the matter is, most of the 'straight' cismales I've befriended are just as 'girly' as I am, in one way or another, just scrutinized less for not having as many 'girl' appearance-markers.

-Acted like an ->-bleeped-<-/been a creep at times around chicks because it's the 'guy' thing to do. (It's fun, but really? Come on. What are you, 15?)

-Forced myself while working even though I knew my body couldn't take it, because I didn't want to be seen as a 'weakling' (it's not manly to admit you have pain, hurr), ended up with a knee injury.

I've also done these.

Quote from: Cairus on November 06, 2009, 08:10:11 PM
-Needlessly picked on other guys for being feminine as a way of overcompensating for my penislessness. (You don't have to be a jerk to assert yourself as a man.)

In a way, though, it seems that pointing out the stereotypically 'feminine' habits of other guys sometimes opens people's eyes a wee bit. All my life I've been called a '->-bleeped-<-got' and a 'pussy' for having certain habits and mannerisms that are femme, but the truth of the matter is, most of the 'straight' cismales I've befriended are just as 'girly' as I am, in one way or another, just scrutinized less for not having as many 'girl' appearance-markers.

-Acted like an ->-bleeped-<-/been a creep at times around chicks because it's the 'guy' thing to do. (It's fun, but really? Come on. What are you, 15?)

-Don't talk about my feelings, (hurr, ah um a mahyon, we don't talk about our feelings! Mahyon is legion!) because I'm afraid it'll stamp me as a whiny sensitive 'my feelings this my feelings that' Girl Type. Suffer in silence instead.

-Tried to get away with binding with medical tape EVERY DAY constantly so I could wear open face shirts. Have scars up my lower back/chest because of this.

-Forced myself while working even though I knew my body couldn't take it, because I didn't want to be seen as a 'weakling' (it's not manly to admit you have pain, hurr), ended up with a knee injury.

Biomales do most of these things too (I live amongst teenage boys; they are sad creatures)

Quote from: austin86 on November 05, 2009, 03:18:51 PM
before i knew what trans was when i was little and nobody was home i would wet my face and put ashes from the fireplace on my face to make a goatee. and god this is embarrassing i would also stuff my pants with a hotdog when i was like 8 or 9 hehe.

As a kid before bed I would stuff my underwear with toilet paper so I had a bulge   Oh and I've never had a fauxhawk lol  Most of the 'stupid' stuff I've done was in private so no one else knew but me. I play MMO's and hate using voice chat because everyone will assume I'm female and then I gotta correct them x.x

Quote from: Mr. Fox on November 07, 2009, 11:49:35 AM
Biomales do most of these things too (I live amongst teenage boys; they are sad creatures)

Yes, but they do it to 'pass' as well; in a way, not too much differently from how we do. Despite the fact that they're cisgendered, they still do those things to 'be one of `the guys' and to avoid demerits on 'manliness points' with other dudes and chicks. Granted, there's probably less chance of a cis guy to be 'ma'amed' over these things, but the fear of being seen as 'unmanly' by peers is pretty similar. Guys pick on each other the same way for being unmanly. I've even seen it very subtly done here in this forum, even, amongst ftms. Very subtle pissing games/'guess what, I'm manlier than you' plays.

Cis dudes will go so far as to (subtly, but across the board) change a myriad of small things about themselves, or coat themselves in self denial about things so as not to be unmanly. I've seen it in plenty of cisgendered dudes. Pretending not to like things they do like, because it's 'unmanly' and vice versa. Trying to stifle giggling or wild gesticulating because it 'un-mans' them and keeps them from passing as a 'normal' guy. We tend to go a little further(physical stuff, like the smoking and binding with duct tape as mentioned above), but I'm pretty damn sure if ayour average cisfellow woke up one morning and sounded like a little girl or had big boobs he'd probably try to do something about it to 'pass' as 'normal', too, until he figured out 'what was going on' or woke up again and discovered it all to have been a dream.

Quote from: Cairus on November 07, 2009, 01:17:50 PM
Yes, but they do it to 'pass' as well; in a way, not too much differently from how we do. Despite the fact that they're cisgendered, they still do those things to 'be one of `the guys' and to avoid demerits on 'manliness points' with other dudes and chicks. Granted, there's probably less chance of a cis guy to be 'ma'amed' over these things, but the fear of being seen as 'unmanly' by peers is pretty similar. Guys pick on each other the same way for being unmanly. I've even seen it very subtly done here in this forum, even, amongst ftms. Very subtle pissing games/'guess what, I'm manlier than you' plays.

Cis dudes will go so far as to (subtly, but across the board) change a myriad of small things about themselves, or coat themselves in self denial about things so as not to be unmanly. I've seen it in plenty of cisgendered dudes. Pretending not to like things they do like, because it's 'unmanly' and vice versa. Trying to stifle giggling or wild gesticulating because it 'un-mans' them and keeps them from passing as a 'normal' guy. We tend to go a little further(physical stuff, like the smoking and binding with duct tape as mentioned above), but I'm pretty damn sure if ayour average cisfellow woke up one morning and sounded like a little girl or had big boobs he'd probably try to do something about it to 'pass' as 'normal', too, until he figured out 'what was going on' or woke up again and discovered it all to have been a dream.

Absolutely.

It's usually during the teenage and early twenties, a lot of guys try really hard to fit in. They'll say things they don't necessarily mean, but do it anyway because he thinks it makes him look like a man. It's a rite of passage in a way. And I can see it definitely happen with FTMs. Some say when an FTM gets on T, he might start acting like a typical jerkish guy. It's not the hormone, it's just him trying to find his way in the male world.

Except, I'm pretty sure I'm aggressive because I'm upset over my situation. I don't think it's about asserting myself as much as it is me being tired of being misunderstood or being in my current situation. We'll see what happens when T comes around.

Quote from: Tristan H. on November 07, 2009, 03:48:14 PM
myself as much as it is me being tired of being misunderstood or being in my current situation. We'll see what happens when T comes around.

I'm not on T yet but I totally understand that statement!  I think it's one of the reasons I'm kinda tough to get to know. I have a lot of anger issues towards myself.

Quote from: Kurzar on November 07, 2009, 03:55:58 PM
I'm not on T yet but I totally understand that statement!  I think it's one of the reasons I'm kinda tough to get to know. I have a lot of anger issues towards myself.

Exactly.

I guess we'll both have to wait and see.

I tried cutting my hair myself again..I really dont learn.

Quote from: Cairus on November 06, 2009, 08:10:11 PM
-Forced myself while working even though I knew my body couldn't take it, because I didn't want to be seen as a 'weakling' (it's not manly to admit you have pain, hurr),...

Yeah, I did that, and still do.
It's not just the whole.. girl bits thing that I push to overcompensate for.. but the damned fibromyalgia!
As a result, I'm pretty much worn out all the time.

I am a well knowned drag king in my area and most of us have done many dumbthings to try to pass. Look at my pick all the facial hair is fake and glued on with hair glue by Got 2 be. The fake hair is made of chopped up weave. Hhmm duct taping my chest with the duct tape right one my skin but cover te nips with a paper towel or band aid. The duc taping thing I do often if I need to pass 100 %. Its painful and I have bruises to prove it. Hmm. Rolled up socks an stuffed them in my pants. Acting like I was deaf so I didnt have to speak because I have an extremely girly voice.

Quote from: Mr. Fox on November 05, 2009, 02:56:30 PM
and I suck at straightening it

Straightening? Foreign concept. I've never been able to figure out how the people who do that don't burn their heads

Quote from: Cairus on November 06, 2009, 08:10:11 PM
-Forced myself while working even though I knew my body couldn't take it, because I didn't want to be seen as a 'weakling' (it's not manly to admit you have pain, hurr), ended up with a knee injury.

Did that today, actually.
Nearly passed out on the concrete/tile floor... I'm a smart one sometimes.