You're right he never said whether his marriage is an open relationship or not but he did say "I am definitely living inside a closet" which means for the most part that he is hiding that he is in fact interested in transgendered women. From the facts it would seem he is cheating by the way and words he chose to tell his story. 

Although I don't understand his story all to clearly because he says "I have always been attracted to trans gender women,".  Well that being the case how would one know whether or not a male has gone through Sex reassignment surgery or if they were just born a women unless the Sex reassignment surgery wasn't fully complete or he knew the person before hand? (besides the silly trans dating sites) cause you see the point in Sex reassignment surgery is to become closer looking and correct body parts to the gender your getting it to, so wouldn't trans gendered girls look like plain girls? like most if not all of you here?

Quote from: OriSoul on November 15, 2009, 05:14:27 PM
You're right he never said whether his marriage is an open relationship or not but he did say "I am definitely living inside a closet" which means for the most part that he is hiding that he is in fact interested in transgendered women. From the facts it would seem he is cheating by the way and words he chose to tell his story. 

Although I don't understand his story all to clearly because he says "I have always been attracted to trans gender women,".  Well that being the case how would one know whether or not a male has gone through Sex reassignment surgery or if they were just born a women unless the Sex reassignment surgery wasn't fully complete or he knew the person before hand? (besides the silly trans dating sites) cause you see the point in Sex reassignment surgery is to become closer looking and correct body parts to the gender your getting it to, so wouldn't trans gendered girls look like plain girls? like most if not all of you here?

It seems most of these sorts of people (people who would call themselves interested in transexuals) are only interested in ones with functioning male genitals, for exactly that reason.

Which in my mind makes it a paraphillia, and I for one wouldn't want to be with someone who wanted to be with me because of a condition that's made my life a living hell. Especially behind their wife's back.

Quote from: heatherrose on November 15, 2009, 03:25:57 PM

What part of being a "victim of persecution" gives anyone
the right to look down their nose at someone else?

It doesn't, everyone has a right to an opinion.

Quote from: asfsd4214 on November 17, 2009, 05:59:41 PM
It seems most of these sorts of people (people who would call themselves interested in transexuals) are only interested in ones with functioning male genitals, for exactly that reason.

Which in my mind makes it a paraphillia, and I for one wouldn't want to be with someone who wanted to be with me because of a condition that's made my life a living hell. Especially behind their wife's back.

It doesn't, everyone has a right to an opinion.

I agree with everything you're saying. In particular being with someone who's strictly attracted to pre-ops as the idea of being expected to have my genitals involved keeps me from being sexually active. Howevver,   I would ask everyone here in general, is someone who is strictly attracted to pre-op's a bad person, moraly or otherwise?

Quote from: Bellaon7 on November 17, 2009, 07:00:44 PM
I agree with everything you're saying. In particular being with someone who's strictly attracted to pre-ops as the idea of being expected to have my genitals involved keeps me from being sexually active. Howevver,   I would ask everyone here in general, is someone who is strictly attracted to pre-op's a bad person, moraly or otherwise?

I don't know about bad person or not, but whatever they are they can be it far away from me.

Quote from: asfsd4214 on November 17, 2009, 07:12:03 PM
I don't know about bad person or not, but whatever they are they can be it far away from me.

Do you believe their are people who would say or think those exact words about you & myself?

Quote from: Bellaon7 on November 17, 2009, 07:24:29 PM
Do you believe their are people who would say or think those exact words about you & myself?

Definitely, and we can stay far away from each other too.

Quote from: asfsd4214 on November 17, 2009, 07:43:20 PM
Definitely, and we can stay far away from each other too.

I agree, that's what freedom's all about. But, only for the sake of argument, how much would effort would put into staying away from each other, or to keep them away from you? How can you really be sure it's one of them or if they're one of us?   

Quote from: Bellaon7 on November 17, 2009, 07:00:44 PM
I agree with everything you're saying. In particular being with someone who's strictly attracted to pre-ops as the idea of being expected to have my genitals involved keeps me from being sexually active. Howevver,   I would ask everyone here in general, is someone who is strictly attracted to pre-op's a bad person, moraly or otherwise?

Not at all.  Everyone is free to like whom ever and what ever they want but it matters when or if it is morally right at the time like with this thread as I stated before if its behind a loved ones back (loved one being a boy friend or girl friend currently at the time) then it would be wrong and unfair to the person they are already with.

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Quote from: asfsd4214 on November 17, 2009, 07:43:20 PM
Definitely, and we can stay far away from each other too.

From what I gather from reading this is that as long as "asfsd4214"  Isn't being bothered about it then its not a problem to her and if it was she would try to stay away or converse with them little to not at all.

Quote from: Bellaon7 on November 17, 2009, 07:56:58 PM
I agree, that's what freedom's all about. But, only for the sake of argument, how much would effort would put into staying away from each other, or to keep them away from you? How can you really be sure it's one of them or if they're one of us?   

I'm going to start from the last question "How can you really be sure it's one of them or if they're one of us?" We'll you can't tell if it's one of them until the problem a rises.

For the next question I changed it around to be more grammatically correct "But, only for the sake of argument, how much effort would be put into staying away from each other, or to keep them away from you?"  This is a tough question to answer because it all depends on the person with the problem about you.  For instance the person with the problem may be a push over and say their opinion about us to their friends and leave her alone or they could be the over-barring type and harass her to the point of getting a restraining order from the cops.  You just never know how far a person is willing to go.

I kind of think attraction is irrelevant when you love and are attracted to your partner. You can ogle at whomever you like, you just can't touch. (unless you and your partner have a mutual understanding in regard to this).

I like looking at women, some are absolutely smoking gobsmackly hot. I've even had crushes that felt like love on other women while married. Should I cheat because of this? Absolutely not. It's natural to be attracted to people you are attracted to. Being in a relationship does not stop you being attracted to other people.

Have a perv, fantisise, maybe have a moderate use of porno, but remember who you love. If you don't love them, maybe that should be the focus.

Quote from: goldman44 on November 13, 2009, 05:11:46 AM
Hi all,

I am definitely living inside a closet because I have been married for 15 years to a lovely woman; however, I have always been attracted to transgender women, especially those with real breasts.

Before and during my marriage, I have dated transgender women and always found the intimate moments completely normal and erotically intense; however, whenever I see two men having sex, on tv or in magazines, I become totally repulsed to the point where I shiver and actually feel physically sick.  Yet again, I find oral sex, with a transgender woman, totally natural and beautiful.

What concerns me, is the older I am becoming, my feelings toward transgender women are getting stronger and stronger.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

We don't really have all the details but here is my interpretation. He mentions he likes oral sex with a transgender woman but also mentions he finds two men together having sex repulsive. So I am going to guess he means him giving oral sex to the male parts of a pre/non-op trans woman. It seems to me he has a fetish for (sorry if this is offensive) 'chicks with dicks'. I would also make a guess that if someone he was attracted to had SRS surgery the attraction would be gone.

Quote from: Sebastien on November 14, 2009, 12:39:19 AM
Am I the only one who objects to this guy's post on the basis that he assumes transgender women are different from other women?

I did but to be honest I thought the forum was being trolled.  I really did not expect this many people to reply to this one person either way. O.o