Veronica,
1. You are telling me and others that we are not bio males, so please tell me exactly how bio male is defined! You are assuming that we all believe in biological determination, and let me say strait up, many of us see it for the flaws that it has. But go ahead and give it a good shot if you want, and I will respond in kind with evidence ( scientific evidence ) that will dismiss your claims.
2. I have two adams apples, one from T and one from puberty. So does this make me twice the man? lol
One is by the way not as dominant and noticeable.
3. I am 5'10 175 pds, 9.5 shoe, 34 waist, 30 inseam, etc. just the average build of a average guy. My hands are the same size as my brothers, actually exactly the same size, wierd huh?
4. Not only can I hang out at a gas station and talk with the guys, I can walk the streets of LA, Oakland, Memphis, Nashville, Atlanta, Chicago and DC, Baltimore, Phili, etc. and have. I have lived them, not always by choice. I have been places that most white guys don't have the balls to go, because I know how to get along with people from every back ground, ethnicity, race, socio eco class etc. It does not matter where you put me, I am just the same as any other guy that has a good head on his shoulders. What's dragging in my pants has nothing to do with how I am defined as a male. I am equal to you and any other guy in this crazy world. I am going to assume here that you cross dress, and I am also going to assume that you don't feel like that makes you less of a man? Or do you? I honestly would not think so.
So the way I see it is that you don't realize the true nature of what a F2M is? Let me spell it out okay...
MALE!
5. And no being a redkneck does not make them one up on peging guys. I live in redkneck country bro. I have attended college, lived in dorms, camp, hike, fish, drink, party, etc. mountain bike with my male friends, and no one not once has ever had a clue of my medical history in all these years no matter where I lived through out the US. And it is just that a medical history. I have had construction jobs, layed cables, insulation etc. under houses with other guys and never once, been asked if I am different.
I am not some girl that has a identity crisis, I am a man that was mis labeled by idiots that want to force things to be fixed into place that are just simply not ment to be fixed into a firm place for the comfort of the twisted world we live in.
The worst part of the whole situation for TS people that are not defined IS is that they are made to feel like they are suffering from a "condition" and in most cases the "condition" is a social condition not a mental illness, or identity crisis! When the world gets that strait, then a lot of progress will hav been made.
Hope you don't mind my laying on the line my thoughts to what you have said, but felt like saying what I had to say.
Peace,
Taylor
Posted on: September 26, 2006, 03:25:21 PM
Veronica,
Now let me see, I once had a ovarie, and I still have a testicle, and partial prostrate, and a dead uterus, umm a single adams apple, and lets see, what exactly does this tell you? I could have had the uterus removed, but I could not think of a good reason to let them tare through my stomach muscles to do so. What this should tell the average person with a lick of sense is that there is a reason that deterimination of a persons sex is not as simple as you would so narrowly like to assume it to be. And it is not me saying this, it is all of scientific research in modern times saying so, umm going back to the 1700's and current.
Iis there a particular reason that a tennis player without a penis but with male chromosomes can be denied their right ( raised female all her life) to participate in the womens US games?? Gee, could it be for the confusion on defining male and female?? Would ya think??
If we did things your way, define a penis please, because according to the medical standards, a penis must be past 2cm and clit is under 1.5 cm. Now wait...what happens if you are between 2cm and 1.5 like say 1.75cm?? Then what the heck do ya do? And what if a fully internal functioning female is born with a 2cm clit, should they really butcher her? And what if a boy is born with a penis that is 1.8 and what do they do with his organs and structure? And what about the boy that has the functioning testicles and his penis is 1.5, so they chop it off and casterate him, build a hole, because you know...they are going to make him a girl! Yea right!
So no, a doc cannot simply assume by the existence or lack thereof what someones sex is, Smith got it wrong, but then it was just a joke in a movie afterall.
Peace,
Taylor