Quote from: Tasha Elizabeth on January 22, 2010, 07:08:43 AM
if you think this stuff is interesting, fine.  nobody is faulting you for that...

So true.. this made me think how many threads there are that are basically analytical debates over reasons and causes etc.

Which seems to be more prominent in the MTF threads over the FTM threads.
I must admit I can get drawn into it so easily yet I'm starting to see just how pointless it all is.

Isn't the first rule of statistics pretty much that correlation is not causation.

Quote from: tekla on January 22, 2010, 10:41:11 AM
Isn't the first rule of statistics pretty much that correlation is not causation.

I don't think anybody ever implied anything except correlation.

A and B almost always implies one or more of the following: A=>B, B=>A, or C=>A and B. Casaully unrelated systems are virtually never correlated.

whats the name of the Hypothesis to do with swans?  No matter how many white swans you see you cannot infer that all swans are white and there is no such thing as  a black swan.

Quote from: lilacwoman on January 23, 2010, 05:03:07 AM
whats the name of the Hypothesis to do with swans?  No matter how many white swans you see you cannot infer that all swans are white and there is no such thing as  a black swan.

Good point... I want a black swan..

Hi there,

I think people will always look at someone who is slightly different and make assumptions about them. It comes from a basic lack of self confidence in one's self so if they can pick out something wrong in another person they feel better about themselves.

I have had people pass me who I have heard arguing over me as to whether I was male or female. One such occasion was a man arguing with his wife/partner because of my ankles of all things and the women saying no way that's a man, lol. I just smiled to myself. I had another time where another couple arguing because of my hair. O! well. Can't wait for the finger one now although not sure about that one as my ring fingers (3rd) is slightly longer on both hands, I apologise, I did look.

What really matters is how we deal with our own issue of gender dysphoria and come to a place where we are comfortable in our own skin and live a full and positive life and living to our full potential. I have spent to long dealing with this to worry about the above and I am just moving to a place in my life where I am free to expend the energy I had on GID into things that are positive and good.

Just my thoughts,

hugs

Stardust 

i've never had anyone just come up to me and ask me if i'm a transsexual, and i've never went over and told someone about me unless they are a really good friend.  hell, even my one good friend i had known for a long time was surprised when i brought up something ts related.  "you're trans??"  lol.

anyway... i've known people who are like "i'm going to refer to them as they ARE, not as how they are presented" which is a load of bull.  i don't let myself get pissed over it because i know they are just being douchebags about it.  plus if they did that to me people would think they are crazy, lol.

i think the more signs you have physically from your past, the more likely it will be that you will be spotted.  but having a couple features i don't feel will break you, even an adam's apple.  i have one and it doesn't hurt me... and even if it does one day why should i care.  i'm educated, attractive, i'm doing things with my life... if someone catches me as mtf, good for them.  maybe they'll feel better about themselves for a mere moment.  but if i let every bastard with "manswers" get to me i wouldn't be where i am today.

manswers... what a crock.

Quote from: Maiden on January 23, 2010, 03:15:10 PM
anyway... i've known people who are like "i'm going to refer to them as they ARE, not as how they are presented" which is a load of bull.  i don't let myself get pissed over it because i know they are just being douchebags about it.  plus if they did that to me people would think they are crazy, lol.

People are jerks, but people are also astonishingly ignorant about all things gender. I can't really fault them for that.

Also, I would think a lot of people would have trouble seeing someone as a different gender than they've always seen, regardless of what they've been told. So I'm not sure how much I believe the "refer to them as they are" mantra.