No where near enough in this day an age.  I am highly considering going back to school for either a counselor, or psychology.  Manufacturing jobs are basically gone, and it seems service industry jobs, are hot....

Lots of degrees and certificates up and beyond PhD. Does education matter?
I think it does for many reasons other than knowledge. I think a good education teaches you how to manage time and to cope with uncertainty. To have ambition.

All of these are achievable without a "formal" education.Indded some of the most succesful people in the world, monetary wise, have few if any academic education.

So don't get put off by people with letters after their name. Just go out there and do what YOU want to do. Learn what you need to do it. And most of all, smell the flowers and be happy.

A case in point Sir Richard Branson had little formal education. He owns Virgin airlines etc, obvious failure in life

One of my regular taxi drivers has a PhD in physics. He prefers driving a taxi (cab) to anything in the academic world.

Both are succesful in my opinion.

Muffin BTW have you thought of being a courier for a Pathology business? They have to drive and collect specimens from different places and don't have to interact with people too much, but have to be reliable and committed and do a very important job. It could be a way into the workforce and get your feet.


Cindy

Quote from: CindyJames on February 03, 2010, 01:59:22 AM

Muffin BTW have you thought of being a courier for a Pathology business? They have to drive and collect specimens from different places and don't have to interact with people too much, but have to be reliable and committed and do a very important job. It could be a way into the workforce and get your feet.


Cindy

Yep I have basically anything in that area will be perfect for me.
Speaking of pathology I had a blood test the other day and the guy that did it was a complete novice and even before he put it in I knew it was going to hurt and bruise. I could feel it moving around and it made my stomach turn, it took him ages to get through the eight tubes which only prolonged the pain. I had to sit down afterwards for ten minutes before leaving, and yeah big red spot and bruising, I'm not going back to that place, I'm getting the feeling from the fact it's always different people there that that's where a lot of phlebotomists do their training. >_<

MA in Political Science, tried to get my PhD but fell short..

My education is both acedemic and craft based

BFA Photography
BA Colonial Architecture
BA Facilities Engineering/Construction Management
Certified Tax Assessor
Home Inspector
Minister, Church of Spiritual Humanism

I've finally given up on ever achieving a Masters in anything. I love to but I doubt I would ever use it.

BSc Environmental Biology
MSc Ecology

now I'm about half way through my PhD in biology.  I love being a student, I have been a student or worked in a University for the last 14 years.  I joke that doing a PhD would be too easy so I decided to do it in a different language (french) and transition at the same time.   

Bachelor of Laws and Bachelor of Economics.

Cindy is right. Many wealthy people have made fortunes without a university education.

Yeah, but if you check they tend to have two things, one being a level of drive and determination coupled with an almost ruthless ambition, the other is they come from money.  Sure Richard Branson did not go to college, but he did go the best schools in England including Stowe^*, which pretty much gave him the equivalent of a college education by the end of high school.  His grandfather the Right Honourable Sir George Arthur Harwin Branson, was a judge of the High Court of Justice and a Privy Councillor - and in England that stuff matters, a lot.  Yeah, Bill Gates never graduated college, he dropped out, but he dropped out of Harvard, which means he was good enough to get in, and came from a family rich enough to pay for it.^**


* - Stowe is also where Roger Hodgson of Supertramp went to school, and is pretty much the basis for The Logical Song.

** - his father was a prominent lawyer, his mother served on the board of directors for First Interstate BancSystem and the United Way, and her father, J. W. Maxwell, was a national bank president.

This is one of those rare moments that I agree with Tekla

So, is the conclusion that if you were born and matured surrounded by success, that you will succeed?

I payed for some of my education but I also took advantage of every opportunity I was offered in furthering
my areas of understanding. One company I worked for would pay for an elective after every 3 required.
At this point in my life I feel that I am continuing to be educated, I'm curious by nature but only in selected directions.

I don't have anything! 

I've got a Master's in bull plopping & a BS in babbling.  Currently in university to get a doctorate in "semantics".

lic:Genie Electrique
bts :informatique de gestion
...

masters in computer forensics.

My education is follows:

• High School transcript
• Associate Diploma in Civil Engineering
• Certificate in Office Administration
• Bachelor of Engineering in Computer Systems Engineering
• Bachelor of Science (Mathematics)
• Diploma in Engineering Practice
• Graduate Diploma in Education

Currently enrolled to do a Masters by Research in Physics.  It seems that the more I know, I find out that I know actually nothing and learning and teaching is part of my life and will be until the day I die.

Kind Regards
From Germany
Sarah B

Be who you want to be.

Construction engineer - concrete stability
Master in Applied Computer Science
Business Administration ( bachelor )
Electricity ( contractor degree )

I manage all short and long term investment funding ( derivated products, ... ) for a + 10 000 employees organisation as a job, which is strangely enough not at all what I was educated in.

From Belgium

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Quote from: Kimberley on February 04, 2010, 12:56:11 AM
Bachelor of Laws and Bachelor of Economics.

Cindy is right. Many wealthy people have made fortunes without a university education.

I think the important thing is to act. Just do it, something, anything.  Having a degree makes you relax because you think you don't need to prove yourself any longer. Because you already proved yourself.

Having a degree can also work against you because people will see you as a danger, especially if you search for a job. The one that hires you must have a higher degree than you. Otherwise you become a threat to him/her.

Quote from: Kaeren on February 06, 2010, 04:27:28 AM
Having a degree can also work against you because people will see you as a danger, especially if you search for a job. The one that hires you must have a higher degree than you. Otherwise you become a threat to him/her.

I agree that it can work this way.  I went into military service to get technical training because I couldn't get it as a civilian.  I already had a degree.  (It was just as well.  It is funny how things work out sometimes.)

- Kate

I have a two year degree in the field in which i work.

At the time I was young and single, life was fun, I was working with a group of really smart people doing some really advanced things, and I was making way more than a young man should at that age.

The degree was almost an afterthought, and I already knew the subject material.

Now, 25 years later - manufacturing is almost gone from this country, and there are a lot more people trying to squeeze into fewer professional jobs.  Having a degree is almost a requirement to get a good job, along with a good personal "network". All my 2 year degree is good for now is toilet paper. I have a good reputation in my field, so i'm skating by on that for the moment, but I suspect that will eventually be less useful as time goes by. I'll have to reinvent myself at some point.

Moral: Never pass up an educational opportunity when you are young. Getting an education when you get older gets harder because of obligations and responsibilities.

Quote from: Sarah B on February 05, 2010, 10:27:58 PM
Currently enrolled to do a Masters by Research in Physics.  It seems that the more I know, I find out that I know actually nothing and learning and teaching is part of my life and will be until the day I die.

You learn more and more, until you know everything about nothing.

Quote from: Pippa on February 02, 2010, 12:26:51 PM
BA Honours degree and post graduate professional qualification.

Me too.

BTW, I think that gender dysphoria crosses all educational back grounds and more. However the higher educated and perhaps higher earners have more chance to transition (just a thought).

Stardust