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Testosterone and Androgyny?

Started by Crow, February 15, 2010, 05:13:03 PM

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Crow

I identify as genderqueer-- all in all, my gender is pretty fluid. Physically, though, I come across as pretty feminine. For the most part, I'm pretty comfortable with my body, but more and more, I listen hear my own (rather feminine) voice and feel like it's some one else's instead of mine.

So here's the thing-- I know testosterone lowers voices and that the changes are permanent even after stopping. I have heard of female-bodied genderqueer/androgynous people using testosterone temporarily for changes in voice and whatnot, but there seem to be very limited sources of information about such things. Most of the places I've found seem to refer to lifelong use of testosterone, which I'm pretty definite I don't want.

I don't honestly know if I might want to use testosterone, but it's definitely caught my interest enough to want to find out more. Does anyone know any information relating to this that might be useful to me?
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no_id

I found this link which might give some insight (if little).

Based on that I'll speculate that the small amount of information on temporary use of T in connection with GID (in the case of genderqueer) has to do with a high 'not-done' ratio.

I think it has to do with the diagnosis of the severity of the dysphoria the individual is experiencing. Physicians outweight health risks against the benefits of transitioning (taking a 'full transition' as a basis).
Probably if you'd walk in and mention your voice as the primary reason for your GID and why you want T then I doubt they'd sign the paperwork. So that'd throw you in either the 'lie' or the 'illegal' circuit.

I'd suggest to roam the FTM board for more insight, and get some info on T in general (dosage, patches vs injections).

There are techniques to make your voice more masculine without T, but to lower it definitely is a whole different alley.
All with all I'm inclined to think that presentation can have a big effect.
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Sevan

I'm gender queer and went to my therapist who I've been seeing for three months (who's been really open to my gender fluid/bigender identity) and I asked her for T. She told me she had to do some "research" and came back with a definite...no. There are other factors but she stuck to the SOC pretty seriously and there's no provision in the SOC for gender queers. It's all or nothing. So...yea, lie...or go the illegal route to get T.

I've been working on my voice, bringing it down into the lungs more and pushing with the diaphram more and it's definitly lowered. So there are other ways to go about getting the results you want.

Personally I'm still all sore and upset over not being allowed T. Though again, in my personal case there were other factors involved. And she seems to think it's just a "not now" vs. a "not ever"....we'll see.
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Crow

I'm terrible at lying, and illegal hormones have way more risks associated with them than I really want to mess with, so I don't think either of those are really viable options. x3;

My voice is hardly the primary reason for my gender dysphoria-- it's jut been feeling more and more inconsistent with the rest of me the more comfortable I become with my identity. But still, I do know I fall through kind of a crack in the system, which poses kind of a difficulty in finding information/solutions.

I do think that looking up non-hormone-related voice changing methods could be a good first step into whatever I'm going to do, though. In which case, where might I find that information?
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no_id

Right-oh, some voice lowering/deepening techniques jazz;

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One with vid

A search in the Ftm forum will probably bring up more.
Personally I did the second one for a while, but it made my voice sound artificial. Secondly, I wasn't in the position where a deep sounding voice would draw positive attention. Now I should probably give it a go again.

Ah- I wasn't implying your voice be the primary reason of[...] I dig where you're coming from.
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Fenrir

I found this person on YouTube who was on T for a while, but then stopped. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X4Nd9nQPDA&feature=related#
My voice is pretty deep, but the timbre is unmistakeably female. If I try to rasp it it just sounds like I have athsma.  :D
I have worries about whether I should try to get on T or not... no, I'm not entirely happy with how I am now, but to be honest I don't want to lose the upper range in my voice either, and while the prospect of having a beard doesn't phase me the prospect of shaving every day would. The ability to actually have muscles would be awesome, though. And if I could have more of a male bone structure, that would be amazing, but I'm already 18 so unless I decide IMMEDIATELY, that's not going to happen properly either. Aargh, if only we could pick and choose the effects!  :-\
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Sevan

Oh my...he's yummy.

*hem* Well it's not true what they say...it CAN be found! My GP, without the note from a therapist, and with no indication that he'll need a note from a therapist in the future...perscribed me T!
I didn't...exactly lie...exactly. I told my doctor I was/am trans. I left out any kind of "level" indicator...I didn't say I'm androgy and I didn't say I am FtM. I'm on a low dose of T gel and I'm STOKED. So it can happen. Plus...if I were you and wanted to stop at some point...then I could do that. Because it's my body and what goes in it or on it is entirely up to me. Yay!
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Kinkly

It is true that you are able to get treatment I see a doctor who deals with LGBT issues but is just a gp she was willing to give me hormones as long as I had made an appointment to see the shrink I had told her I was androgyne
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