Not looking forward to this. Already sleep 12 hours if I can and like a rock. I'm pretty sure female puberty's done.

Quote from: SilverFang on February 16, 2010, 10:30:07 PM
Not looking forward to this. Already sleep 12 hours if I can and like a rock. I'm pretty sure female puberty's done.

Nothing says it'll happen to you for sure, but at least you've been warned if it does. Besides, there's nothing wrong with 12 hours of sleep.

When I was 19 I used to sleep all the time and I had an early puberty. It just depends on you in the end.

I disagree! 12 hours of sleep sounds terrible.
I naturally sleep only 6-8 hours and I love it

Puberty tends to cause an adjustment to sleep patterns. A lot of adolescents tend to feel sleepy much later than they did as kids, and some teenagers can't fall asleep before midnight no matter what they do. So don't be surprised if you have trouble falling asleep as early as you used to.

When I'm paying attention, I have found it helpful to keep EXACTLY the same sleep schedule seven days a week. And stay away from bright light at night. If you're staring at a bright computer screen at eleven p.m., that might contribute to the problem. And it might help to expose yourself to bright light, preferably natural light (or a lightbox), first thing in the morning. The other thing that sometimes helps me is to have a winding down routine at night. So don't do anything too stimulating for maybe an hour before you want to go to bed.

In my case I have a hard time staying up passed 11PM, I get really tired. My schedule has been pretty much the same, except the last couple of days because I missed my shot.

I was wired for about a week. Then I had teenage boy hours. Could've slept till 2 PM, which wasn't conducive to maintaining employment. I'm 6 years onto T and sleep a normal amount now, but still need to make myself go to bed early. I'm up too late tonight. But I guess I'm metabolically about 20, which makes sense.

Dennis

Quote from: Lachlann on February 17, 2010, 12:08:45 AM
In my case I have a hard time staying up passed 11PM, I get really tired. My schedule has been pretty much the same, except the last couple of days because I missed my shot.

With me, I was staying up later than usual and sleeping longer. Now I'm starting to fall apart around midnight but still sleep longer. I wonder how long this will keep up...

As an addendum to my last post on this thread...apparently it's going to go on and on and on...and get worse. I used to start getting tired around midnight and would go to bed by one. Now I rarely make it to bed before two or three in the morning, and sometimes I can't sleep till five or even later. Unless I have an appointment or something, I don't get out of bed till the afternoon.

I suppose my being unemployed doesn't help, and neither did the recent time change. But I've been trying to dial back my sleep schedule and have not had much success. I can keep it up for a few days only. Then I crash and sleep till two in the afternoon. Gah.

Kinda glad this thread was necro'd.

I don't have much of a consistant body clock. When left to my own devices, it gets 3 - 6 hours drift per day (that said, I always seem to bias towards being nocturnal).... and that was pre-T.

Since T, I seem to want an hour or two nap in the afternoons. And I'm either bounding out of bed an hour before the alarm, or I'm dragging myself up and getting around half asleep for an hour or three.

It's harder to wake myself up when I'm tired, and harder to sleep when I'm wired.

It's pretty much exactly what I went through as a teenager.

Quote from: Teknoir on March 31, 2010, 03:23:18 AM
I don't have much of a consistant body clock. When left to my own devices, it gets 3 - 6 hours drift per day (that said, I always seem to bias towards being nocturnal).... and that was pre-T.

Perhaps you were born on a different planet? Anyway, I have similar drift (though much, much less--minutes rather than hours) when I'm left to my own devices, but correction always arrives, eventually, in some form. However, when I went off my depression meds a few years ago, I had continual significant drift for two or three months. I would wind up waking up at noon, then the afternoon, then the evening...it was nuts. I was always in the twilight zone. My brain chemistry was completely out of whack, in many ways.

Although I don't remember the particulars, I read some scholarly paper about a link between depression and sleep-phase disorders. Perhaps that's my problem now.

Teknoir, have you ever seen a sleep specialist?

Well, it seems like my insomnia is back, but I sleep longer when I do get to bed.

Hmm... I bet it was Saturn. Ring-a-ding-ding!

I normally get pulled into some form of pattern by external forces (work, class, appointments and the like) so I don't drift as much as I otherwise would. Still can vary by up to about 1 - 3 hours for the same consistant morning alarm time.

I haven't seen a sleep specialist. I don't really think it's that out of the ordinary - I remember seeing on a doco years ago that it's not abnormal to drift an hour or two per day. I'm just... at one end slightly stretching the definition of "normal"

It's not as bad as it seems. I don't often get the oppertunity to let my body clock do it's own thing. I've usually got to be up at some time for some reason.

I've also heard some meds can mess with sleep patterns. Makes sense - it's all neurochemistry. I've also heard the same link with depression and sleep disorders. It might be worth looking into if you are experiancing issues.

No such explanation for me though. I'm not afflicted with the curse of depression.

The "twilight zone" (Oh yeah, I sure know where that is. I have a condo there ) can pull you in if you aren't careful, and it can be difficult to get out again. Especially if you're depressed at the time.

I cut loose when I have holidays and follow my own body clock into the twilight zone willingly (it's nice not to wake up tired!) - but I try to stay no longer than a week at a time. It's just too easy to stop interacting with the world when it starts looking like disjointed time lapse. I also wouldn't go near it if I were feeling depressed - that sounds like a sure fire way to send yourself nuts.

The best tools for dealing with the "twilight zone" (living in it, or leaving it) are a firm grasp of 24 hour time, and clocks that shove the time and day / date in your face. I switched when I was a teenager because I got sick of not knowing if it was am or pm (and not knowing if the day had elapsed yet, or how many days had elapsed). Just having the real time and day of the week in your face can help you stay connected with "reality" enough to bring yourself back when it's time.

Quote from: Teknoir on March 31, 2010, 07:27:39 AM
I've also heard some meds can mess with sleep patterns. Makes sense - it's all neurochemistry. I've also heard the same link with depression and sleep disorders. It might be worth looking into if you are experiancing issues.

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The "twilight zone" (Oh yeah, I sure know where that is. I have a condo there ) can pull you in if you aren't careful, and it can be difficult to get out again. Especially if you're depressed at the time.

Yeah, I just came out of a particularly nasty seasonal depression, only to find that it wasn't ALL seasonal. So I'm still getting sucked into a rut. Trying to bootstrap out of it, but I'm fighting my stupid brain.

My therapist wanted to refer me to a psychiatrist for evaluation for some kind of mood stabilizer. He's not pushing for that so hard right now because I dramatically improved once spring kicked in, but I'm wondering if it would be a good idea anyway. However, I'm still unemployed and apparently just missed the cutoff for an extension. Money is becoming a big issue. I wonder if this shrink accepts my insurance...except I don't know that I want any kind of insurance paper trail on this...and I'm wary of psychiatrists in the first place.

I hate this.

Quote from: Arch on March 31, 2010, 04:37:17 AM
Although I don't remember the particulars, I read some scholarly paper about a link between depression and sleep-phase disorders. Perhaps that's my problem now.

That's probably true. I can sleep for most of the day every day if I'm depressed enough.