Are you a FTM and straight?

I'm a pansexual bloke.
When I am with a male partner I am not a woman, I'm still me, the bloke.
Who I am with does not dictate by identity.

A man who is with another man is not a woman.

And gay men are not abnormal. They are perfectly within the range of normal human behavior.
If I were you I'd take some time to try and figure out what it is that makes you uncomfortable about something someone else does that doesn't even involve you, that isn't really your business at all.

i am ftm but the ppl around me make it seem like u dont have the parts so if ur attracted to females ur gay and i have female parts so if i like someone with female parts wouldnt that make me gay. once i get surgery then ill be a straight male. my mom says she wont aknowledge me as male ntill i get the surgery so i guess in my mind i am a straight male but IDK like i said im a little homophopic kinda im have nothing against gays and wouldnt mind being freinds with one but to be one makes me rather nervous, i cant think of the word to describe it. the ppl around me make it seem like being gay is a crime.

I am biologically female but I have a male gender identity making me an FTM, If I were attracted to men(biological or otherwise) I would be gay, but as I am attracted to women(biological or otherwise) I am a straight man.

I'm entitled to have my own opinion.


McShaun - If you act and believe that you're a man, it shouldnt matter what people have to say. Start doing changes so they'll take you as a guy and forget about what you have between your pants.

im out as male i mean i dont own any female garments and havent for almost 7 yrs. ppl look at me either as male but dont say so or just wierd they dont no wat i am, i just dont think a female would be attracted to this. Maybe one day ill wake up and this will have been just a nightmare and ill have all the right parts.

What pronouns do they use? What do they call you (name wise)? And what do you mean females won't be attracted to this?

ive asked a few of my friends to use male pronouns and call me Shaun most of them still call me Tasha and use she which BTW is extremely degrading. Wheat i mean by they wont be attracted to this i mean a man with a vag, homestly i sure as hell wouldnt be attracted to that i could see myself attracted to a MTF even without surgery.

Quote from: mcalistershaun on May 21, 2010, 09:30:02 AM
Wheat i mean by they wont be attracted to this i mean a man with a vag,

honestly I would hope that if someone is going to be in a relationship with you they would respect you enough that they wouldn't consider you a "man with a vag" I know my girlfriend doesn't. I have a dick, its small but its mine.

You point that out to them and tell them you don't like being called she or a girl. They'll understand and if they don't just completly block them out and don't answer till they start using male pronouns.

Trust me, it isn't the junk in the trunk that females are after. My girlfriend is completly straight and we've been together since I didn't even considered myself FTM cause I didn't know such things existed. Now, I treat, act, talk like a guy and she and everyone around me treats me like one. There are many times I told her you know, she can find a guy with the whole package but she loves me so she says I am the whole package and penis isn't what makes a real man. WORD BRO! I know. All the girls I've messed with is all dead straight and it just how you carry yourself out that matters.

Bi, and I don't want to be with a man as a woman. This isn't the sole reason for me to transition (sex).

i never looked at it that way im just very pessimistic i always thought that females were lookin for the whole package. hhhmmmm. maybe when or if i go to college ill meet someone with an open-mind and like me for me. i live in a small town in MO and ppl here are extremely-close minded, most of them dont even know what the word transgender means or is. most ppl have no clue that i dont have the right parts. can u imagine them finding out i think it would be horrible and i hate telling ppl i am a bio female.

Most trans can be very pessimistic cause we don't have the junk but you can't always think that cause to alot of females, it doesn't matter. They want a guy they feel secure and special around. You can give a woman that, she'll stay with you through thick and thin.

Quote from: accord03 on May 21, 2010, 09:52:59 AM
Most trans can be very pessimistic cause we don't have the junk but you can't always think that cause to alot of females, it doesn't matter. They want a guy they feel secure and special around. You can give a woman that, she'll stay with you through thick and thin.

exactly

Quote from: mcalistershaun on May 21, 2010, 09:30:02 AM
ive asked a few of my friends to use male pronouns and call me Shaun most of them still call me Tasha and use she which BTW is extremely degrading. Wheat i mean by they wont be attracted to this i mean a man with a vag, homestly i sure as hell wouldnt be attracted to that i could see myself attracted to a MTF even without surgery.

Think on what you just said.
If you could see past the genital flaw what makes you think others woulod be incapable of seeing past your's?

Not to pick on the subject. But you said your were with this girl before you even identified as trans? Well what did you identify as then? Seeing as though you would have been a girl dating a straight cool. Unless I understood wrong.

I myself date people for their heart, mind, soul, personality, and maturity. I dont care whats between the legs. I find people attractive based on the insides not the shell. Call me gay call my whatever. Its just how I am. Yes staying a female to date men would have been easier in society but its not who I am. I am not a female. I hate my female shell. I need to be who i really am. To make me happy.

Quote from: JakeDenver on May 21, 2010, 01:15:00 PM
I myself date people for their heart, mind, soul, personality, and maturity. I dont care whats between the legs. I find people attractive based on the insides not the shell. Call me gay call my whatever. Its just how I am. Yes staying a female to date men would have been easier in society but its not who I am. I am not a female. I hate my female shell. I need to be who i really am. To make me happy.

Ahhh THIS... loving someone for who they are not WHAT they are... if only all human beings were as open minded &accepting as us.

I would thing being trans would help with that.

Btw who you're attracted to has nothing to do with your gender identity, like previously mentioned.

Forcing myself to stay female-bodied simply because I am attracted to males is what caused me to be trapped in a body I hate for so many years. If anything, it makes it worse because straight males are attracted to the elements of my body that I despise the most. Relationships are immaterial; my body is wrong. That is the point.

That said, I have no time to waste with homophobes. If two consenting adults are having sex, it's not yours nor anyone else's business. It in no way threatens you. Acting as if it is something you must concern yourself with is idiotic. Grow up and learn how to keep your nose out of other people's personal lives.

Quote from: accord03 on May 21, 2010, 08:30:33 AM
But seriously my friends can't come out. They're homophobics 

Accord, some people who are homophobic are in fact bi or gay themselves. It's possible (though I don't know how likely) that one of your friends is like that.

You appear to have a girlfriend and have apparently been perceived as a lesbian by other people? Is that true? Do you see yourself as straight?

Of course, lots of folks will be only too happy to categorize you to suit themselves. If people see you as a woman or if you are pretransition and attracted to women, some people will see you as a lesbian.

Once you transition, even if you have bottom surgery, some people will still insist that you are a lesbian. A lesbian in denial. A lesbian who hates "her" sexuality or "her" self so much that "she" changed her body to fit into a heteronormative or andronormative/patriarchal box. They may not know you personally; they will just categorize people that way, and you fit in the category.

In other words, some people will always see folks like us as gay, no matter how we identify or whether we change our bodies.

QuoteSo, FTM who are bi or gay is attracted to two guys having sex? And not doing the straight way like pussy and penis?

The spectrum of gay/bi FTM sexual practice is broad and varies from person to person. Some guys keep their front holes and never have sex there; some keep those parts and love sex there. Some like anal sex and some don't. Some guys feel incomplete without male genitals and like to use those parts or have them pleasured.

I imagine that a few guys out there don't have top surgery, ever, and might like their chests the way they are. I haven't run into a guy like that that I know of, but I recognize that it could happen. To each his own.

For myself, I have always imagined (from early childhood) that the natural way of the universe was that men like to be with men--because who would want to be with a woman! Yes, I was a little gay boy long before I understood sex. I had some female playmates but preferred the boys. When I started imagining sex (before I experienced it with another person), I tried to fantasize about men and women together, and it just didn't do anything for me. It seemed wrong and unnatural. So I kept the fantasy boys and men that I'd always had in my mind, and I allowed them to become sexual together. That was what seemed right to me.

I'm perfectly happy that other people do what is right for them. In fact, I even have a few straight friends.

Quote from: Kvall on May 21, 2010, 03:11:08 PMYou have got to have some kind of repressed homo feelings going on. Either you're so disturbed that someone would see you as a lesbian that you're lashing out at all gay people in general, or perhaps you have some underlying attraction to men that you don't want to admit. Nobody is that vociferously against homosexuality unless they're hiding something. Maybe you're the trans guy version of all those Republican pundits who keep getting caught with gay affairs.

Well, maybe that's a stretch too far, but seriously man, you have issues.

Agreed.