Does anyone know these two binders? is the 1300 noticeably more effective than the 690? Does "the binding area is made by velcro" just mean that it has velcro on one side or is the whole binder made from some super-rigid material? in what way do the two differ? did the binder that had the right size for you according to the size chart actually fit you?

http://www.t-kingdom.com/shopping/english/page1300_english.shtml

http://www.t-kingdom.com/shopping/english/page690_english.shtml

I don't know about those two but I do have a T-kingdom binder and I think they're all the same/similar. I have the long shirt style. There is a strip of binding material that goes around the chest that is velcroed together on one side under the armpit. The binding stuff is thick and stretchy. The straps and length of binder is something else. I don't know the name of it or what it's like...I guess it's a polyblend or something?

The size chart says essentially that I'm too big for the binders so I bought an XL. Based on the sizing chart I would be a XXXXL. The XL doesn't do much, not sure of the reason why it's not effective but it's probably a combination of things.

Hey thanks for the reply! that's interesting since the binders i had so far are completely made out of the binding material.....
hmmm....if a couple of numbers "too small" (wtf, XXXXL?? they have ODD sizes!!) doesn't do much for you, i may be screwed anyways because according to their chart i'm an S so i can't go any smaller

Well, it would've been 4-XL based on what it says. XL was the largest size they had available for that cut. It might work for you if you have a small frame. I mean, it's made more for thin bodies and small chests. What doesn't work for me might work for you.

I bought that binder because I wanted a white one and ugh it sucks (the velcro one).

I ordered a small and they gave me a medium which was okay because adjustable velcro. But about a month of wearing it, the bind was wore out.

Back on topic:
The size chart seemed accurate, I just compared the medium to my extra small underworks binder and looked at both size chart...seems fine.

thanks! i was worrying about the velcro...most of their binders have it and i think it sucks too... how was the binding quality compared to your underworks binder?

The binding was okay for about 3 weeks then it started loosening and as I said after about a month I may as well be wearing a sports bra -_- I'm not big in the front, but it shows.

If you can get an underworks, you should velcro one from tkingdom is just more convenient to put on.