Quote from: trnsboi on July 19, 2010, 04:47:16 PM
First of all, what "few places in the world" are you referring to? And furthermore, do you think that women were at once seen as inferior and then society just all of a sudden made a complete 180? Women may have equal protection under the law (which is still not entirely true--why do you think the ERA never passed?) but they do not have the same privileges. Men can walk down the street without worrying about getting raped. Men, especially straight men, stand very little chance of being battered by a partner. On average, men still get paid more than women for doing the same work (yes, this is true in 2010 in the United States). Men are in control of the world's resources and methods of production and own 90% of the world's property. You can believe what you want, but the truth of the matter is that women are by no means seen as men's equals even in the modern Western world.
Yes its true, but there are also women CEO whether they make more or less money its irrelevant. Has anyone really worked out why women make less? Is it because they are willing to accept less then men? If a job pays 15/hour but the woman accepts 13/hour and a man says, no i am worth 15, they will give the job to the woman wont they? So how many women are employed vs men? These figures from the 2009 state the following:
Women comprised 46.8 percent of the total U.S. labor force
The largest percentage of employed women (40 percent) worked in management, professional, and related occupations;
The unemployment rate for all women was 8.1 percent and 10.3 percent for men in 2009, so are they employed more because they are willing to work for less or simply accept less?
Also take this into account:
"Men have been disproportionately hurt," the Financial Times explains, "because they dominate those industries that have been crushed: nine in every 10 construction workers are male, as are seven in every 10 manufacturing workers. These two sectors alone have lost almost 2.5 million jobs. Women, in contrast, tend to hold more cyclically stable jobs and make up 75% of the most insulated sectors of all: education and health care."
I just want to point out, it maybe the case when someone at an interview says, how much do you want for a job, that the woman gives a lower salary then the man, and that may be why there is a gap. So if women want more money they have to be more firm in terms of the salary they will accept, but in turn those that get paid the least, but work just as good keep their jobs in recession and those that get paid the most are let go.
As for being attacked, a wimpy look man can get attacked just as much as a woman, you think a built 6'5" woman walking down the street would be the target of an attack or just some average looking guy? You get attacked if you appear weak, its just that society portrays being thin and undernourished for women as a good thing.... As for rape, yes, i have to agree, women will be the main targets, its just something you accept if your a woman, and it isnt equal, its just reality, there really isnt anything anyone can do about it, but carry some kind of protection on your person like pepper spray, or even a weapon. There are ways to minimize the risks. As an MTF i accept the fact i cannot do the same things i used to. I cant go out at night alone anymore for a jog, it sucks, but there is no amount of equality laws going to prevent someone from attacking you.
Even though in some areas of the world women dont have the freedoms we have here in the US. I dont feel less equal. I can follow my dreams just like anyone else, if i dont make as much as a man its because i settled for less, but if i can live a nice life with that amount it really doesnt bother me, and i dont really know what the top range to be offered was anyway.
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Quote from: trnsboi on July 19, 2010, 05:22:10 PM
The issue here is that you are seeing the murder of a trans person as a personal problem when in fact it is a societal problem. I'm not sure about you, but if someone were to murder me because I am trans I would want everyone to *know* that it was because I was trans. It is called consciousness-raising. And that is why we have hate crimes laws, because whenever a hate crime is committed the authorities need to report it as a hate crime. It gives us an idea of what the problem is, how big the problem is, who is committing the crimes, and it helps us to figure out ways to ameliorate the problem.
We already know who is committing the crimes, the profiles exist, its the same people that hate everyone else, but thats great, when i die, they wont remember me as the woman i am, they will just remember me as another Trans death statistic. What a wonderful thought, my life has such a meaning that the content of my life and all its accomplishments are trumped by being TS....
When someone picks up the paper, they will read oh, another trans woman was killed, the LGBT community will be appalled and feel sentiment however everyone else who picks up a newspaper gets a flash in their heads of another dead cross dresser with gender issues. It makes me seem less then human, and i hate it, I hate the term TS. I am a woman with TS, not a TS Woman.
Sorry its something that bothers me, i dont mean to sound hostile.... that was not my intent.
