Quote from: tekla on July 17, 2010, 12:09:57 AM
Sartre isn't worth of licking the sweat off my balls.  Really.  A third rate philosopher, and even worse, a fourth rate writer.

agreed

Personally I think some of you may accept the literal existence of reality, and indeed trees, far too easily.

Because we all exist within a closed system, namely our own consciousness we have no objective way to measure the validity of anything presented to us by the organ of that consciousness. We simply can not objectively observe a system when we ourselves are a subjective component within the system that we attempt to observe, or indeed are the entire system itself.

Your whole life may be merely a story that you yourself are authoring and the only reason that you believe in reality maybe because it is necessary for the internal logic of that story, that you do so.

In my world, but perhaps not yours, it follows that though discussions like this may be fun to follow, they are ultimately meaningless, except as amusing plot diversions.

QuoteIt doesn't matter if it is or is not, because we're living in it. We are conscious to it.

Yes it does matter and it matters very much. Life and your experience are not the most important thing, goodness and virtue are. Without them life is a waste.

Quote from: rejennyrated on July 27, 2010, 02:05:42 AM

Your whole life may be merely a story that you yourself are authoring and the only reason that you believe in reality maybe because it is necessary for the internal logic of that story, that you do so.

But the fact remains that if I punch you in the face, it will still hurt.

Objective proof isn't necessary to justify the probability that the body is not just an aspect of the mind.  If anyone is entirely convinced that nothing exists outside the mind, then I challenge them to not feel pain when I punch them with my full strength..  If pain and injury really only exist in the mind, then it should be very simple to not experience such things.  The fact that everybody does experience such things is sufficient evidence to suggest that the world isn't just something they dreamed up.

Sorry to bust everyone's quantum new age bubble.  The fact remains that existentialism has failed to render science useless.

Does does punching solipsists have to be to prove a point?  Just kidding.

heart-mind? everything is connected, this just reminds me, maybe it was all just split out and scattered and that was what was missing, in that case this truly would be that place, funny that... because... when it all comes together, i mean logically that makes sense, and thats what seems to have happened, shiva and shakti, and beyond that even to grounds of even more resolute and subtle ecstasy, i stretch, move around, i feel like i'
ve been bogged down, by so many things, moving, i realize things, where am i
? theres no one really out there, but flo is there and thats comforting, it is realer , truer... like cows wandering pastures of forever, eating potatoes
i don't understand, this concept people can seem so distant but is mind ultimately its own realm and body its own realm and they are all realms
that primal ness which is there equally... sometimes i  look into the light
i saw wow that is some birght light or i just see colors, everything is very beautiful