Quote from: Jessica.C on July 25, 2010, 08:45:39 PM
Very encouraging words Jenny thanks.

I think I'm starting to get more nervous about the surgery and recovery as i read some of the complications that have come up for girls.

Don't be nervous about the surgery, honestly the pain I have now post op 11 days is negligible and the complications with peeing has gone and I can pee like Niagara Falls. Also sensation was felt from day one post op but I have to keep a cool head when dilating, hehe. All the pain and worry and anxiety is quickly forgotten as you begin to enjoy being complete for the first time in your life.

11 days post op and I feel so fantastic even that word doesn't do it justice. Had you asked me 4/5 days post op I would have given you a different answer, (like don't do it). That was the worst days. So yea, its a major operation but one that I have found soon settles down and life begins.

You have three months to go, believe me I thought that was ages but it flew by so enjoy life and the woman you are already. I felt that surgery was only the icing on the cake for by the time I got to surgery I was more or less transitioned.

Take care and big hug

Stardust 

Quote from: Robertina on July 25, 2010, 06:52:38 PM
Is clitoral sensitivity about the same as what you had for the glans, or can it increase?  I'm wondering you get more sensitive because everything is concentrated in a much smaller area compared to before.

I can't really answer that, because I genuinely have insufficient memory of what the original feeling was like. Remember I haven't had any male bits for over 25 years, so perhaps someone else can answer. I want to say yes the feeling is concentrated but I think that may be one of those Your Mileage May Vary situations. All I can say is it's very nice and for me the experience has always blown male sex right out of the ground!

In fact thanks to a rather ill judged comment to a journalist when I was in my mid twenties and newly postop I am on record in a certain rather scurrilous UK national newspaper as saying that comparing sex as a woman to sex as a man is like comparing a Rolls-Royce to a mini (two english cars - one very expensive and luxurious - the other cheap and small.)

Quote from: stardust on July 26, 2010, 03:03:38 AM
Don't be nervous about the surgery, honestly the pain I have now post op 11 days is negligible and the complications with peeing has gone and I can pee like Niagara Falls. Also sensation was felt from day one post op but I have to keep a cool head when dilating, hehe. All the pain and worry and anxiety is quickly forgotten as you begin to enjoy being complete for the first time in your life.

11 days post op and I feel so fantastic even that word doesn't do it justice. Had you asked me 4/5 days post op I would have given you a different answer, (like don't do it). That was the worst days. So yea, its a major operation but one that I have found soon settles down and life begins.

You have three months to go, believe me I thought that was ages but it flew by so enjoy life and the woman you are already. I felt that surgery was only the icing on the cake for by the time I got to surgery I was more or less transitioned.

Take care and big hug

Stardust

Awe Stardust Thanks.

Guess its just one of those things. You want to know all you can about what can happen, what to expect, etc..

On one hand very helpful information on the other hand not good to worry about things that may never even happen.

Quote from: Robertina on July 25, 2010, 06:52:38 PM
Is clitoral sensitivity about the same as what you had for the glans, or can it increase?  I'm wondering you get more sensitive because everything is concentrated in a much smaller area compared to before.

for me it is way more sensitive in that little area now than it was before surgery. For that reason I was also wondering if perhaps the entire nerve bundle from the glans is incorporated into the clitoris. It might just be because everything is more sensitive down there at the moment, like nerve overload. At 5 weeks post-op I've tried a little light stimulation in the shower but it still gets irritated very easily. I'm really trying to hold out for 3 more weeks lol

Jessica honey this is a one time deal and you'll never have to go through it again. Yes those first couple days can be rough but the end result far outweighs any temporary suffering. You have a good surgeon and you'll be fine.

Quote from: FairyGirl on July 26, 2010, 07:34:20 AM
Jessica honey this is a one time deal and you'll never have to go through it again. Yes those first couple days can be rough but the end result far outweighs any temporary suffering. You have a good surgeon and you'll be fine.

Yes i do and yes i will Thanks Ladies

Quote from: Jessica.C on July 26, 2010, 08:01:59 AM
Yes i do and yes i will Thanks Ladies

That's the way to think, Jess.  Always positive! 

Quote from: FairyGirl on July 26, 2010, 07:34:20 AM
Jessica honey this is a one time deal and you'll never have to go through it again. Yes those first couple days can be rough but the end result far outweighs any temporary suffering. You have a good surgeon and you'll be fine.

And in fact not to disagree with anything Chloe has said, in the unlikely even that the result is not quite as you hope I am living proof that it is perfectly possible, even decades later to iron out any kinks. The intention as chloe said is that it be a onetime deal but it is still possible to have a second chance at perfection.

The mere fact that I was prepared to go back for a second helping should absolutely reassure you, if nothing else does, that this is not such a terrible ordeal.

I don't know if this was covered already or not.

Can you have an orgasm from vaginal penetration alone? or is it necessary to have clitoral stimulation?

Quote from: Jessica.C on June 24, 2010, 07:19:48 AM
Great question, I wonder the same thing myself. I think Bowers says 8 weeks and Brassard says 12 weeks. I would imagine every one is different depending on how well they heal and who they're have sex with.

Me personally i wanna make sure that am capable of having an orgasm before i have sex with some. I want my first time to be magical and don't think it would be if i couldn't feel a thing.

You are aware that not all all post-ops are orgasmic?

Quote from: stealth2010 on July 27, 2010, 09:12:24 PM
You are aware that not all all post-ops are orgasmic?

Just one of the many things to prepare yourself for.  If it works--FANTASTIC!  If it doesn't can you really live with it?

Quote from: stealth2010 on July 27, 2010, 09:12:24 PM
You are aware that not all all post-ops are orgasmic?

not all are, but I think many, maybe most, are. But just like the surgery isn't what makes you a woman, it won't make you orgasmic if you're not before. Dr. McGinn actually recommends keeping in good practice pre-op for that very reason, and she provides some important information about how orgasms work and how to achieve them post surgery (she helped edit the chapter on transsexual orgasm in the book "The Science of Orgasm" by Beverly Whipple). The g-spot is another nerve pathway that can stimulate orgasm. And taking vitamin B6 helps with important nerve regrowth down there after surgery.

I had no problem before surgery, and I seem to have good sensitivity in the important areas, so I have good expectations but it's still a bit too soon to tell.  For that matter nipple stimulation alone has worked for me in the past with someone who knows what they're doing- there's definitely more than one way to get off! lol Honestly I don't expect it to happen the first time I have sex, but that doesn't mean I can't learn with lots of practice.

Quote from: FairyGirl on July 27, 2010, 10:13:01 PM
Dr. McGinn actually recommends keeping in good practice pre-op for that very reason, and she provides some important information about how orgasms work and how to achieve them post surgery

Any info you care to share?

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I had no problem before surgery, and I seem to have good sensitivity in the important areas, so I have good expectations but it's still a bit too soon to tell.  For that matter nipple stimulation alone has worked for me in the past with someone who knows what they're doing- there's definitely more than one way to get off! lol Honestly I don't expect it to happen the first time I have sex, but that doesn't mean I can't learn with lots of practice.

Absolutely no problems with me either.  I've always been rather sensitive down there--I can get off by just squeezing my legs together.   

Among the cautionary notes about possible problems that the hospital gave me at my pre-op consult, it also mentions that in about 1% of cases, the clitoris becomes TOO sensitive and further treatment is necessary to try and adjust it. 
Usually something can be done to achieve a better level, but in a small proportion of that 1% in the end the only solution is to remove it or cut the nerves   

Quote from: stealth2010 on July 27, 2010, 09:12:24 PM
You are aware that not all all post-ops are orgasmic?

Yes i am very aware of that possibility. From what i gather alot more are then are not.

As others have mentioned and from what i understand if things are working well before hand your chances are much greater that they will work after. After many years of hormone therapy and and orchie, much to my surprise things still seem to be working quite well down there for me. I'm also feel confident that i have chosen one of the best SRS surgeons out there. So yes I'm nervous but I'm remaining very optimistic.

Quote from: Kristyn on July 27, 2010, 11:01:54 PM
Any info you care to share?

There's a lot actually in the handout she gives before surgery. I don't have a digital copy but it could maybe happen

I am 5 years post op and it took me a while to orgasm, or should I say "Learn" how to orgasm given the new equipment.  Even now it takes a while, but that's okay, it just makes the whole experience that much more enjoyable.

Quote from: Steffi on July 28, 2010, 12:29:02 AM
Among the cautionary notes about possible problems that the hospital gave me at my pre-op consult, it also mentions that in about 1% of cases, the clitoris becomes TOO sensitive and further treatment is necessary to try and adjust it. 
Usually something can be done to achieve a better level, but in a small proportion of that 1% in the end the only solution is to remove it or cut the nerves   

Indeed that was EXACTLY what happened to me. For 26 years my lover(s) have had to avoid touching it directly - but earlier this year I had a revision which included a second clitoroplasty - the old one was HUGE, over sensitive, and in slightly the wrong place.

Version 2 is now small neat, hooded and in the right place with just the right amount of sensitivity to be really pleasurable. My sex life, which was already pretty satisfactory, hit a new high.

So once again - don't worry - unless you are one of the really unlucky ones who ends up non sensate, most other things can be fixed later by the right surgeon.

I always thought the clitoris was far enough away from the vagina that intercourse usually did not provide sufficient stimulation for orgasm without additional attention, but my girl friend told me that her boyfriend stimulates it just fine during intercourse and that it is more a matter of technique (and size of the man may help).  I still don't quite get it though.

Does the clitoris vary much in location from one girl to another?

Quote from: Robertina on July 28, 2010, 07:34:38 AM
I always thought the clitoris was far enough away from the vagina that intercourse usually did not provide sufficient stimulation for orgasm without additional attention, but my girl friend told me that her boyfriend stimulates it just fine during intercourse and that it is more a matter of technique (and size of the man may help).  I still don't quite get it though.

Does the clitoris vary much in location from one girl to another?

I'm not so sure it relates so much to it's location but rather the nerves and ones overall sensitivity.  Many women don't need direct clitoral stimulation to orgasm--just being in the general vicinity may be enough for some.

Learn something new everyday!  Do post-op MTF's also have sexual sensitivity around the clitoris or just on the clitoris itself?

By the way, I still can't figure out what the surgeon does with the nerve bundle from the glans that runs down the penile shaft into the body.  Do they just tuck it inside the body when they attach the neo-clitoris?