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Degrassi's first transgendered character.

Started by Lucas, August 06, 2010, 05:03:02 PM

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Lucas

Yes, I am a fan of teen soap operas, blah blah blah.  ::)

But is anyone else here interested/excited for Adam (the character's name) to finally be put in the spotlight? This week was more of introducing him but next week is when Degrassi's going to air the episode in which he comes out and possibly goes back to living as a female.

What are your opinions?

Personally, I wish they didn't make it so obvious Adam is a transman. It seems like he is trying too hard to fit in with the guys. I dunno, hopefully the character will improve as the series toils on. What do you think?

Lucas
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insanitylives

besides the one comment about "thats what my exgirlfriend said," which was pretty fail, i don't think it's incredibly obvious he's trying "too hard" to fit in, it just seems like he's from out of town, which i'm pretty sure he is anyway.

also the episode wasn't focused on him being ftm, but the concert thing/breaking the truck (you idiot, if you know you can't carry something...) which IMO is a decent sign that it's not going to be too focused.

i wanna see more though. really want to see more.

edit: i just realized i'm 2 episodes behind, will comment later
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karson

i dont think he would pass very well in reality they should have his hair different and cloths that actually fit him
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Konnor

I haven't watched the show, but I googled him and yeah, he def doesn't pass very well at all. For the image of transguys everywhere, it would be cool if they made it clear to the people watching that we're just like bio guys, not like butch girls or anything like that. But I guess just having him on the show is a big step in the right direction! I'll have to check the show out sometime.
"It takes more courage to reveal insecurities than to hide them, more strength to relate to people than to dominate them, more manhood to abide by thought-out principles rather than blind reflex. Toughness is in the soul and spirit, not in muscles and an immature mind." --Alex Karras
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Calistine

He doesn't pass at all really. He seems kind of awkward, but more just because he's trying to fit in. I'm really not looking forward to when he's outed to the whole school.
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notyouraverageguy

Well the thing is, Adam is transgender, they never really say he's ftm.. Just presenting as a boy..
I heard about this and have been trying to see the show. Just today I was able to watch this weeks recaps, next week is when he's outted. Im excited and interested in what they have in store for him.
I read that they did extensive research to try to portray Adam as accurate as possible without offending the trans community.
I agree, he does not really pass as male. His dress and hair compared to the other boys doesn't quite match. But at least his attitude/mannerisms isn't that bad. I thought it was funny when his friend told him about getting kneed and he was like oh yeah I hate when that happens... lol
Gender expression is NOT gender identity.

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insanitylives

Quote from: Femboy on August 06, 2010, 10:35:57 PMI thought it was funny when his friend told him about getting kneed and he was like oh yeah I hate when that happens... lol
That comment was... painful to watch. As was the fact he couldn't figure it out.
Is it just me, or is Eli the only one who realizes that Adam is somthing other than a short feminine 10th grader? Sav is clearly oblivious, Claire doesn't notice anything, and the people throwing him into a locker didn't make any comment about him being a girl [which would be the obvious insult to use]

Also, can we stop picking on the actress for not passing perfectly? That has to be a bitch of a role to cast, and then pull off. Maybe blame the dresser, who should have picked something a little more appropriate.
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Between Names

Quote from: insanitylives on August 07, 2010, 09:18:45 AM
Also, can we stop picking on the actress for not passing perfectly? That has to be a bitch of a role to cast, and then pull off. Maybe blame the dresser, who should have picked something a little more appropriate.

Besides the fact that it would be unrealistic if they cast an actress who passed perfectly as male to play Adam.  Nobody can help what they look or sound like; we ought to know that. 
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jmaxley

He goes back to living as a girl?  That makes me really frustrated for some reason.

I don't have cable; wonder if there's a way to watch it online or if they'll release a DVD or something.
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Silver

I don't watch it, but I heard about it from a trans group I go to.

I googled it and he doesn't pass. Oh well. Too bad, I guess there would be something wrong with using a male for the role. I don't have much faith in this, because the show sounds stupid to me.
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notyouraverageguy

I think they should've at least casted a real ftm, instead of a female playing the role. But hey its a start.

Maybe you can watch it on hulu?

And yeah I rly can't believe ppl don't question it lol.
Gender expression is NOT gender identity.

Defective Catastrophe.
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Konnor

He goes back to living as female? Hmm sounds interesting. I'm also interested in how they handle outing him as well. Sounds neat so far, I still need to tune in sometime.
"It takes more courage to reveal insecurities than to hide them, more strength to relate to people than to dominate them, more manhood to abide by thought-out principles rather than blind reflex. Toughness is in the soul and spirit, not in muscles and an immature mind." --Alex Karras
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insanitylives

RE:hulu?
No, but
http://www.teennick.com/theclick/
Thing is idiot proof.
But, the episodes are about a day behind. That figures though, it has to  be aired in all timezones before it gets put up on the site.
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tekla

I think they should've at least casted a real ftm,

That pretty much goes against the entire idea of being an actor and all.  As it turns out almost all movies are stories of everyday people as told by rich Hollywood stars.  Get over it.
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Hermione01

I bet there are stealth ftm actors, well at least it would be nice to think there are.  They would be playing just male parts like every other actor.

Also, I am sure there are mtf actors in complete stealth.  If they, (mtf and ftm) play good character parts and never reach or desire celebrity status, they should be able to keep their past to themselves and those they love.

Trust Degrassi to keep pushing the envelope on nearly every issue known to man.  :)
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tekla

Also, I am sure there are mtf actors in complete stealth.

No way, if it were possible for someone to 'pass' both ways they'd be printing it on the top line of their press kit.
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Colleen Ireland

I got my wife and I watching the show a couple weeks ago specifically because I'd read about this storyline.  Saw the first two episodes with Adam just last night.  I thought it was really well done.  Yes, he's trying too hard, and no, he doesn't pass, but isn't that rather the point?  Many (most?) of us, whether FTM or MTF have that issue, don't we?  I've read some posts from some really brave MTF's here who have basically started living full-time even prior to HRT.  Now, THAT'S amazing.  I really hope the story line lives up to the article - but so far I'm really encouraged.  I'm hoping that watching this might give my wife some insights into me, even though I'm MTF.

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Lucas

Also, the coming out episodes air 9 PM eastern time Wednesday & Thursday for those who are curious. It's cool to see so many different opinions from you guys (& gals).
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madzam

Quote from: Lucas on August 08, 2010, 12:57:29 AM
Also, the coming out episodes air 9 PM eastern time Wednesday & Thursday for those who are curious. It's cool to see so many different opinions from you guys (& gals).

Thanks, I was wondering the times it came on. My friends constantly talk about the show "Did you see Degrassi?!" I never really got into it but I just watched to 3 most recent episodes and it seems intriguing. :)
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lilacwoman

this is the same as casting natal women in roles of MtFs...it annoys me just as much as casting an obviously male guy who can't naturally act female and just seems a caricature - which is probably what the producers want anyway?
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