Quote from: lilacwoman on August 08, 2010, 04:47:17 AM
this is the same as casting natal women in roles of MtFs...it annoys me just as much as casting an obviously male guy who can't naturally act female and just seems a caricature - which is probably what the producers want anyway?

Exactly what they want, and I resent it.

Of the FTMs I've met, I've only really met one who didn't pass. (Pre-T) A male could play the role and it wouldn't really be a stretch or anything. They just want the public to think we're oddballs, "trying" to be the other gender. I may be wrong, but that's how it seems to me.

I just realized something - this character is already living fulltime, or trying to, and any "coming out" will be in reverse.  How realistic is that?  Or am I way behind the times (I realize that at that age, it'd be a lot easier to pass, but still...)?

Quote from: lilacwoman on August 08, 2010, 04:47:17 AM
this is the same as casting natal women in roles of MtFs...it annoys me just as much as casting an obviously male guy who can't naturally act female and just seems a caricature - which is probably what the producers want anyway?

you realize adam is being played by a girl, right?

Also also also there's a vid on youtube that includes an interview with the actress playing Adam and a scene from the coming out episode (spoiler alert) here:

From this it looks like they're going to do a good job with the character but we'll see.

Ha, you beat me to the punch Lucas! ;P

Quote from: LucienOctopus on August 09, 2010, 11:22:30 PM
Ha, you beat me to the punch Lucas! ;P

My bad! But feel free to post anything else Adam-related here if you want.

Quote from: Lucas on August 09, 2010, 07:26:29 PM
Also also also there's a vid on youtube that includes an interview with the actress playing Adam and a scene from the coming out episode (spoiler alert) here:

From this it looks like they're going to do a good job with the character but we'll see.

I've watched the clip...made me very uncomfortable...so I'm glad it won't be on UK telly...

Quote from: lilacwoman on August 10, 2010, 03:06:26 AM
I've watched the clip...made me very uncomfortable...so I'm glad it won't be on UK telly...

You mean the scene where he gets thrown through the glass? I got a bit choked up, not gonna lie.

yes, but even the clip of the toilet scene annoyed me.
while lots of us see it as showing bad treatmnet there are far too many idiots who will see it as the correct way to treat anyone who is unusual.

I don't think anyone could possibly watch a bullying scene from Degrassi and think "oh, I should try that on that weirdo I go to school with."  It's pretty obvious what the show is trying to say.  They've done this before with other issues, and it usually has the desired effect.

Quote from: LucienOctopus on August 10, 2010, 07:37:15 AM
I don't think anyone could possibly watch a bullying scene from Degrassi and think "oh, I should try that on that weirdo I go to school with."  It's pretty obvious what the show is trying to say.  They've done this before with other issues, and it usually has the desired effect.

Yes, exactly. Most of the people who watch Degrassi (at least in my experience) are rather open minded to begin with, so even when they're approached with an obscure or new thing to learn about, they are eager to learn and a lot of time are politically correct about it. I highly doubt bully-like people would use this episode as a tool to harass.

Wow, I gotta say this is my first time hearing about Adam. I stopped watching degrassi a few years back, but I'm very glad they started to do a FTM role.  I get the criticisms about Jordan being a cisgender female playing a FTM role and that alot of guys out there are bothered by it, but overall I think it makes the role a bit more real. To have a FTM guy playing the role who's obviously seasoned isn't going to work for the awkward teenaged phase. How man of you can honestly say you passed 100% of the time when you first started out. It's obvious that "Adam" is a new to the deal FTM by the fact he's using an ace... That crap hurts. It'll make you guys uncomfortable, no kidding. It's not glorifying the FTM life, but that's the point of degrassi. And watching the thrown into a window did make me cry. I'm way too sensitive. lol. Guys let's be real, how many of you would 100% be ok with going through the hell of high school as an FTM for the WORLD to see? Who wants to relive that nightmare or feel the vunerablility and dysphoria of letting EVERYONE know "HEY I'M BIOLOGICALLY FEMALE" I bet it's a very small percentage and even smaller how many are eager actors. Let's give some credit here. Hell in all actuallity, adam looks a hell of alot like my ex, just more thug. Put on a polo and khaki shorts and it's my ex. XD Kind of creepy actually.

The bullying clips do make me uncomfortable. But I have been watching the show lately and the guy who throws him into the glass had bullied him and his friend prior to Adam being outed. He messed up Adam's friend Eli's car and kicked him in the balls for no reason as well as almost breaking Adams nose. So it partially is that the guy is just an ->-bleeped-<-.

Part 1 of the new episode that starts to go into Adam's story is tomorrow (I'm pretty sure). Preview for it looks good. As for the bullying scene, it's sad and a little over the top when he gets thrown, but I think it's them trying to show what it's like being Adam's situation...I wanted to go into more detail but I'm really tired right now >.>

Haha it's cool Jacob I get what you're saying.

And ahh it's coming on in 15 minutes! I can't possibly be the ONLY person here who is going to watch it...right? Right?

Quote from: Lucas on August 11, 2010, 07:45:21 PM
Haha it's cool Jacob I get what you're saying.

And ahh it's coming on in 15 minutes! I can't possibly be the ONLY person here who is going to watch it...right? Right?

Nope, you're not! 7 minutes! LOL

I just finished My body is a Cage part 1 & 2 (tonights and tomorrows episodes).  Part 2 upset me quite a bit.  Brought back a lot of bad memories from high school that I've been trying to forget.  I guess that means they did a good job and got their point across 

Alex PLEASE pm me and tell me that he doesn't detransition for good. Degrassi would be sending out a horrible message if they made him do that.

my lips are sealed

The episode is making me have 2nd thoughts about coming out in high school...