this was very informative and i really appreciate your honesty ..thank you

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There is a lot of information on Anne Lawrence's Transsexual Women's Resources site and also at Annie Richard's Second Type Woman.

Caroline

Im a Suporn girl and 22 days post op and cant say enough to praise this man and the staff of the clinic.
The reason I chose him for my GRS as after a lot of research for a surgeon for FFS i decided on Dr Suporn for my FFS. Of the girls here during my recovery I heard a great deal of satisfaction about their GRS. This is the reason I chose him.

Im extremely happy with the results from the first day of seeing my new vagina. There was of course some yucky bits that didnt look nice at all but the staff and doctor were very reasurring that all was fine.

Mine wasnt a perfect recovery period. I had some necrosis removed and some restitching of some seperation (that I put down to myself walking to much) and am due to have some more stitching done to remove a bit more seperation next week.

I am  amazed at how real the neo vagina looks even at this stage of recovery. I have good sensation and am maintaining a decent depth of 7 inches. The dilating regime is going to be a bit frustrating but its something that will in the end run just become routine.

Im glad that I made the decision to see Dr Suporn. Its not my place to say which surgeon is better than the other I just want to let you know that even at this early stage Im extremely happy with my results and how things are progressing.

Krissy

I am 2 months post op and had my surgery with Dr Suporn. He has done and amazing job and that is only at the 2 month mark and im already more than impressed, mind you i have been one of the lucky ones frm day 1...healed very quickly. The dialation process is a drag but worth it!

Hiya Raven

We must have been there at the same time my surgery was 8th July

Quote from: winter88 on October 27, 2011, 06:06:59 PM

LAURA I REMEMBER YOU EMAILED ME AND TOLD ME THAT YOUR ORGASMS ARE *APPALINIGLY LOW* VERY TYPICAL OF BRASSARD GIRLS, AS IVE MET 3 BRASSARD GIRLS AND NONE OF THEM ORGASM EITHER, AS FAR AS APPEARANCE GOES BRASSARD HAS SENT ME SOME OF HIS WORK IN PICTURES AND THEY LOOK PRETTY UGLY, EVERY SURGEON HAS DONE SOME UGLY WORK INCLUDING SUPORN AND BRASSARD, REGARDLESS OF WHO YOU GO TO YOU WILL NEED A TOUCH UP ON APPEARANCE, BUT ATLEAST WITH SUPORN YOU WILL HAVE A FUNCTIONING ORGASMIC VAGINA WITH TONS OF DEPTH UNLIKE BRASSARD THAT WILL LEAVE YOU WITH WEAK ORGASMS ;>  APPEARANCE CAN ALWAYS BE FIXED, BUT ORGASM CAPABILITY? I THINK NOT,

I've seen Laura's results and mine are almost identical to hers and I went to Brassard too.  I'm not saying that all Brassard results are cosmetically similar but mine and hers are--no point, I just find it funny.

As for Brassard girls and orgasm?  I have complete sensation and I have excellent orgasm capability.  The irony is, is that I just don't really care about it.  I think that the ability to orgasm is also dependent on the individual and how that individual heals and her ability to orgasm prior--but this is an old argument.

Quote from: Chrissyts41 on July 06, 2007, 12:13:31 AM
Good luck to you Anonymouse and more power to you.   
I think it is true that every surgeon has poor results at times including the heavily favored N. Am. surgeons apparent on this thread, but I think it's pretty sad when girls use a few bad examples to beat up a surgeon whose dedicated his career to helping T's.  There are many, many more girls who quite obviously have been thrilled w/ Dr. Suporn and his staff.  I hope you are among them when you wake up, hon.
As for myself, just to be on the up and up, I'm still pre-op, but it's come down to Bowers or Suporn.  I have two friends, one going to each very soon, and I think it's pretty shabby the way girls talk down accomplished surgeons on this site sometimes.  It especially annoys me that the assumption is made that girls who go to Thailand have no money and/or no sense.  Get off it, girls. 
I like Meltzer ALOT as a person and know his results are good, but nobody's cutting me twice, I don't care how many limosines they send to pick me up at the hotel.
Chrissy

Hey girl. i was wondering who you ended up choosing as your srs surgeon and what your friend that went to suporn and other that went to bowers  if they are happy? thanks. ttyl winter88

Thanks for strengthening me not wanting srs.

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on October 31, 2011, 11:50:47 PM
Thanks for strengthening me not wanting srs.

YOU CAN DO WATEVER YOU WANT. DONT USE ME AS AN EXCUSE BEACUSE YOU LIKE HAVING A PENIS. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING THE WAY YOU ARE, BUT YOU NEED TO BE HONEST WITH YOURSELF, TRUE STRAIGHT MEN WILL NEVER GO FOR SOMEONE LIKE US, YOU CAN BLAB ABOUT HOW HOTT YOU ARE IT DOES NOT MATTER. IM HOTT MYSELF BEEN TOLD BY TRUCK LOADS OF MEN THAT IM THE PRETTIEST GIRL THEYVE EVER SEEN. AND GUESS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I TELL THEM I HAVE A PENIS" ALL U HEAR IS BYE NO THANKS SEE YA LATER. SORRY DUDE I AINT COOL WIT DAT, LATER FREAK ETC ETC, AND JUST  A MINUTE AGO THEY WERE PRACTICALLY ASKING ME TO MARRY THEM.

WHAT U HAVE BETWEEN YOUR LEGS DOES MATTER, YOU CAN DENY IT ALL U WANT BUT U ARE DOING YOURSELF NO JUSTICE,

IM NOT SAYING THERE IS NO MEN THAT WILL NOT ACCEPT U AS A CHICK WITH A D***. WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE GUYS YOU COME ACROSS THAT ARE INTO CHICKS WITH D**** WILL BE MEN SEEKING A ONE NIGHT STAND, A FETISH. THESE GUYS WILL NEVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR DATE YOU, OR INTRODUCE YOU TO THEIR FRIENDS OR FAMILY. 99% OF THE TIME.

OF COURSE THERES THEY OCASSIONAL GUY THAT WILL ACCEPT U BUT TRUST ME IT DOES NOT LAST VERY LONG BEFORE HE CHEATS ON U WITH A CIS GIRL. BEACUSE THE TRUTH IS THEY LIKE PUSSY, AND U DONT HAVE ONE. THIS IS WERE YOUR GAME ENDS. SORRY I KNOW THATS NOT WHAT U WANNA HEAR BUT MAY THE TRUTH SET YOU FREE!!!

AND THE GUYS THAT DO ACCEPT U ARE *->-bleeped-<- ->-bleeped-<-S* THESE ARE GAY MEN IN THE CLOSET THAT DONT WANNA ADMIT THAT THEY ARE GAY SO THEY DATE TRANS GIRLS TO FEEL AS IF ITS MORE OKAY BEACUSE IT LOOK LIKE A GIRL, THESE GUYS HAVE SERIOUS ISSUES, THEY HAVE NOT COME TO TERMS WITH THEIR HOMOSEXUALITY IF AND WHEN U WANT A SEX CHANGE U WILL HEAR THE DUST FROM THEIR FEET AS THEY RUN FROM U.

EVERY GUY THATS INTO TRANSEXUALS THAT IVE TOLD I WANTED A SEX CHANGE THEY ALWAYS RUN WHICH PROVES TO ME THAT TO THEM ITS ALLLLL ABOUT THE DICK. WHICH IS WAY TO GAY FOR ME. I WANT A REAL MAN NOT SOME GUY THATS GOT A SICK FETISH FOR COCK.

IF THESE GUYS ARE YOUR TYPE OF GUY THEN I RECOMMEND THAT YOU DO NOT GET SRS

BUT IF YOU TRULY WANT A STR8 GUY THATS GONNA TREAT U LIKE A WOMAN AND NOT SOME GAY GUY WITH  A COCK. TRUST ME U WONT GET THAT TREATMENT FROM A ->-bleeped-<- ->-bleeped-<-, THOSE GUYS ARE SUPER GAY AND WILL MAKE U FEEL LIKE A DUDE IN THE LONG RUN BEACUSE YOUR MALE ANATOMY IS ALL THEY SEEM TO CARE ABOUT,

AND YES. I STILL PLAN ON GETTING SRS.

Maybe a quick point on appearance...?

There is ONLY so much a surgeon can do during the first op. This is practically universal and independent on the protocol used! (My 1st took about 7-8 hours)

If they try to make your inner lips too narrow i.e. no 'fat lips' there is a more then average chance that blood-supply will cause an issue i.e. fail.
This even can be the case if they ARE careful.
Just that happened to one woman at PIH during my stay, then the jig was up. Additional skin graft must be found (inner thigh, or tummy) to reconstruct/replace the 'dead' labia minora and with good luck it will 'take'.

It is for that reason that a 2nd 'prettyfication' is often asked for. In fact, Dr. Sanguan asked me, like what seemed to be a standard question: "do I see you again in 6 month (for final labia-plasty)?"

I mention this to give some more perspective. Right now look better then some ggs I have seen, but also not quite the model vj to appear in a good porn movie, if you get the gist :-)

Thank you,
Axelle

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on October 31, 2011, 11:50:47 PM
Thanks for strengthening me not wanting srs.

SRS DOES NOT FIX ALL YOUR PROBLEMS, ITS NOT A MAGIC WAND. BUT ITS PART OF BEING A WOMAN,

WHY ARE U TALKING ON YOUR POST ABOUT GETTING BOOBS AND DOING YOUR FACE? TOO LOOK LIKE A WOMAN DUH.

SO WHY STOP THERE AND KEEP THE PENIS? BEACUSE YOU ARE SEXUALLY A HOMOSEXUAL. THATS WHY, AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING A HOMOSEXUAL, BUT YOU NEED TO REALIZE THAT THE GUYS YOUR TALKING ABOUT ARE NOT HOMOSEXUAL, THEY WANT VAGINA,. DO YOU UNDERSTAND OR DO I NEED TO WRITE IT IN CHINESE LANGUAGE LOL. WHAT IS NOT SINKING IN? LOL. YOUR HONESTLY A WASTE OF TIME. YOUR LIKE A KID THAT CLOSES HER EARS AND STOMPS AND SAYS NO NO I DONT WANNA HEAR THE TRUTH, THEY HAVE TO ACCPET ME BEACUSE I WANT THEM TOO. THEY MUST LIKE ME WITH A COCK BEACUSE I SAY SO. LOL. GOOD LUCK GIRL!

PS. WHY DO U KEEP FOLLOWING ME AND STALKING ME ON THESE BLOGS? BEACUSE U KNOW IM RIGHT?

DO WATEVR U WANT, IM OVER IT.

A reminder: vehemently applying personal standards to other people who may not share them can be considered abusive.  Please remember that one size does not fit all, that there's no such thing as a standard version of anything human and that tolerance of everyone's point of view is a requirement in this place.

You may disagree but try not to do it in a disagreeable manner.

Quote from: Axélle on November 01, 2011, 08:03:23 AM
Maybe a quick point on appearance...?

There is ONLY so much a surgeon can do during the first op. This is practically universal and independent on the protocol used! (My 1st took about 7-8 hours)

If they try to make your inner lips too narrow i.e. no 'fat lips' there is a more then average chance that blood-supply will cause an issue i.e. fail.
This even can be the case if they ARE careful.
Just that happened to one woman at PIH during my stay, then the jig was up. Additional skin graft must be found (inner thigh, or tummy) to reconstruct/replace the 'dead' labia minora and with good luck it will 'take'.

It is for that reason that a 2nd 'prettyfication' is often asked for. In fact, Dr. Sanguan asked me, like what seemed to be a standard question: "do I see you again in 6 month (for final labia-plasty)?"

I mention this to give some more perspective. Right now look better then some ggs I have seen, but also not quite the model vj to appear in a good porn movie, if you get the gist :-)

Thank you,
Axelle

HEY SWEETY.  THATS EXACTLY  WHY IM NOT GOING TO MELTZER , HE DOES A 2 STEP WHICH CUTS MORE NERVES AND LEAVES U WITH LOW SENSATION. THERES 3 GIRLS ON HERE THAT HAVE GONE TO METLZER AND DO NOT ORGASM AND I KNOW OF ANOTHER ONE THAT DID IT THSI YEAR AND SHE DOES NOT EITHER. I WOULDNT GO TO HIM IF IT WAS FREE LOL.

SUPORN GUARANTEES 100% THAT U WILL BE ORGASMIC WHICH IS WHY I CHOSE HIM. IVE NEVER MET A SUPORN GIRL THAT DOES NOT ORGASM, NEVER! I EVEN HAVE A FRIEND THAT DID NOT ORGASM AS A GUY AND NOW AS A GIRL SHE DOES, SHE WENT TO SUPORN.

AS FAR AS LOOK GO THERE IS NO SURGEON OUT THERE THAT MAKES A PRETTY PUSSY EVERY SINGLE TIME. IVE SEEN GOOD AND BAD FROM EVERY SURGEON. BUT WITH LOOKS U CAN ALWAYS HAVE A VAGINAL REJUVUNATION.

Quote from: winter88 on November 01, 2011, 07:38:01 AMEVERY GUY THATS INTO TRANSEXUALS THAT IVE TOLD I WANTED A SEX CHANGE THEY ALWAYS RUN WHICH PROVES TO ME THAT TO THEM ITS ALLLLL ABOUT THE DICK. WHICH IS WAY TO GAY FOR ME. I WANT A REAL MAN NOT SOME GUY THATS GOT A SICK FETISH FOR COCK.

If a "guy" wants a "sex change" then doesn't that mean said person is likely one of us, i.e. not a guy.... so if she likes penises then how is that gay? And why do you post that a "fetish" for the male member is "sick" when in a later post you say that there's nothing wrong with that at all?

I hear what you say dear, just take note that the Suporn protocol is different from e.g. Dr. Sanguan's.
Dr. Sanguan has a short 2nd op (~ 2hrs) also, but its for 'wall papering' inside the vj-channel with saved scrotal skin that was cleaned of all hair follicles. I saw them actually doing it in the op. theatre.
They, a male and a female nurse, seemed to enjoy that work, they looked very contented. It's finicky work. :-)

Dr. Suporn will (as I understand it) perforate the scrotal skin like say - stretch metal, and then place it into the created vj-channel first time.
It now can be stretched, but also will create many, many small open incisions that need to heal inside --- given one's healing performance this internal multiple scar tissue may shrink leaving quite some less depths as compared to immediately post-op.
It will also be painful to prevent this from happening as all inside the vj-channel be very sensate like the original scrotal skin was!

I hope this makes sense, and I hope it was explained correctly to me in PIH.
I also have sensation all the way down the vj-channel but more similar to a bio-vj, which will be less sensate as deeper one goes.

I hope this give you more perspective.
Thanks,
Axelle

* If a "guy" wants a "sex change" ...*

Seems you misread that sentence, it does nowhere say that in the quote at all.

Axelle

winter....caps lock my friend.

Press that key that says "CAPS LOCK"

Quote from: winter88 on November 01, 2011, 07:38:01 AM

YOU CAN DO WATEVER YOU WANT. DONT USE ME AS AN EXCUSE BEACUSE YOU LIKE HAVING A PENIS. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING THE WAY YOU ARE, BUT YOU NEED TO BE HONEST WITH YOURSELF, TRUE STRAIGHT MEN WILL NEVER GO FOR SOMEONE LIKE US, YOU CAN BLAB ABOUT HOW HOTT YOU ARE IT DOES NOT MATTER. IM HOTT MYSELF BEEN TOLD BY TRUCK LOADS OF MEN THAT IM THE PRETTIEST GIRL THEYVE EVER SEEN. AND GUESS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I TELL THEM I HAVE A PENIS" ALL U HEAR IS BYE NO THANKS SEE YA LATER. SORRY DUDE I AINT COOL WIT DAT, LATER FREAK ETC ETC, AND JUST  A MINUTE AGO THEY WERE PRACTICALLY ASKING ME TO MARRY THEM.

WHAT U HAVE BETWEEN YOUR LEGS DOES MATTER, YOU CAN DENY IT ALL U WANT BUT U ARE DOING YOURSELF NO JUSTICE,

IM NOT SAYING THERE IS NO MEN THAT WILL NOT ACCEPT U AS A CHICK WITH A D***. WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE GUYS YOU COME ACROSS THAT ARE INTO CHICKS WITH D**** WILL BE MEN SEEKING A ONE NIGHT STAND, A FETISH. THESE GUYS WILL NEVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR DATE YOU, OR INTRODUCE YOU TO THEIR FRIENDS OR FAMILY. 99% OF THE TIME.

OF COURSE THERES THEY OCASSIONAL GUY THAT WILL ACCEPT U BUT TRUST ME IT DOES NOT LAST VERY LONG BEFORE HE CHEATS ON U WITH A CIS GIRL. BEACUSE THE TRUTH IS THEY LIKE PUSSY, AND U DONT HAVE ONE. THIS IS WERE YOUR GAME ENDS. SORRY I KNOW THATS NOT WHAT U WANNA HEAR BUT MAY THE TRUTH SET YOU FREE!!!

AND THE GUYS THAT DO ACCEPT U ARE *->-bleeped-<- ->-bleeped-<-S* THESE ARE GAY MEN IN THE CLOSET THAT DONT WANNA ADMIT THAT THEY ARE GAY SO THEY DATE TRANS GIRLS TO FEEL AS IF ITS MORE OKAY BEACUSE IT LOOK LIKE A GIRL, THESE GUYS HAVE SERIOUS ISSUES, THEY HAVE NOT COME TO TERMS WITH THEIR HOMOSEXUALITY IF AND WHEN U WANT A SEX CHANGE U WILL HEAR THE DUST FROM THEIR FEET AS THEY RUN FROM U.

EVERY GUY THATS INTO TRANSEXUALS THAT IVE TOLD I WANTED A SEX CHANGE THEY ALWAYS RUN WHICH PROVES TO ME THAT TO THEM ITS ALLLLL ABOUT THE DICK. WHICH IS WAY TO GAY FOR ME. I WANT A REAL MAN NOT SOME GUY THATS GOT A SICK FETISH FOR COCK.

IF THESE GUYS ARE YOUR TYPE OF GUY THEN I RECOMMEND THAT YOU DO NOT GET SRS

BUT IF YOU TRULY WANT A STR8 GUY THATS GONNA TREAT U LIKE A WOMAN AND NOT SOME GAY GUY WITH  A COCK. TRUST ME U WONT GET THAT TREATMENT FROM A ->-bleeped-<- ->-bleeped-<-, THOSE GUYS ARE SUPER GAY AND WILL MAKE U FEEL LIKE A DUDE IN THE LONG RUN BEACUSE YOUR MALE ANATOMY IS ALL THEY SEEM TO CARE ABOUT,

AND YES. I STILL PLAN ON GETTING SRS.

Hey, it's you again.

Leave me alone.

Quote from: winter88 on November 01, 2011, 08:15:22 AM
SRS DOES NOT FIX ALL YOUR PROBLEMS, ITS NOT A MAGIC WAND. BUT ITS PART OF BEING A WOMAN,

WHY ARE U TALKING ON YOUR POST ABOUT GETTING BOOBS AND DOING YOUR FACE? TOO LOOK LIKE A WOMAN DUH.

SO WHY STOP THERE AND KEEP THE PENIS? BEACUSE YOU ARE SEXUALLY A HOMOSEXUAL. THATS WHY, AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING A HOMOSEXUAL, BUT YOU NEED TO REALIZE THAT THE GUYS YOUR TALKING ABOUT ARE NOT HOMOSEXUAL, THEY WANT VAGINA,. DO YOU UNDERSTAND OR DO I NEED TO WRITE IT IN CHINESE LANGUAGE LOL. WHAT IS NOT SINKING IN? LOL. YOUR HONESTLY A WASTE OF TIME. YOUR LIKE A KID THAT CLOSES HER EARS AND STOMPS AND SAYS NO NO I DONT WANNA HEAR THE TRUTH, THEY HAVE TO ACCPET ME BEACUSE I WANT THEM TOO. THEY MUST LIKE ME WITH A COCK BEACUSE I SAY SO. LOL. GOOD LUCK GIRL!

PS. WHY DO U KEEP FOLLOWING ME AND STALKING ME ON THESE BLOGS? BEACUSE U KNOW IM RIGHT?

DO WATEVR U WANT, IM OVER IT.

Hey, why don't you leave the non ops alone?

Quote from: Axélle on November 01, 2011, 10:07:32 AMDr. Suporn will (as I understand it) perforate the scrotal skin like say - stretch metal, and then place it into the created vj-channel first time.
It now can be stretched, but also will create many, many small open incisions that need to heal inside --- given one's healing performance this internal multiple scar tissue may shrink leaving quite some less depths as compared to immediately post-op.
It will also be painful to prevent this from happening as all inside the vj-channel be very sensate like the original scrotal skin was!

I hope this makes sense, and I hope it was explained correctly to me in PIH.
I also have sensation all the way down the vj-channel but more similar to a bio-vj, which will be less sensate as deeper one goes.

I went to Dr Suporn and I'm also less sensate deeper in. The original sensation of the scrotal tissue is gone since it was completely removed and then reattached; the sensation that's there now is of the tissues underneath it.