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I have not had facial surgery, but any doctor you can find bad things said about them.  Have you looked at his site?  Do you like the results you see?

Maybe some of the girls have been to him.

Freaky eh.

For my SRS surgeon I have heard the same thing, yet they are considered one of the best. You will find a lot of contradictions.

If he really was a butcher he would be out of a job. Unfortunately some people don't get the results they desire or have unrealistic expectations. I think with any plastic surgeon you have successes and the occasional unsatisfied customer.

Try a google search, look at reviews, look at pics of their work. If the majority are saying he is great then obviously he does good work. It will be ok honey. Look at his qualifications, look at the quality of the place he does the work, do they come from a reputable school? That will tell you a lot. They won't let someone pass if they do ->-bleeped-<- work. If he is super cheap that is a warning sign.

Just take time to review the info available, relax, I'm sure it will be fine.

Do you mean Dr. Douglas Ousterhout? he looks pretty good.

Have a look at this site http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/~mirror/FFS/LynnsFFS.html
Has quite a lot of examples of his work and links.

http://www.drdouglasousterhout.com/

Any surgeon can have a problem, but I would still go with him.  And these are just three incidence out of how many surgeries.

I am sure if one were to look there are reports of deaths during SRS, but that is a risk one takes when going under the knife.  I have had three surgeries and all of them had risks, but I went forward with them any way.

I think you are have some pre-surgical fears.  First ask who sent you these links and why.  Are they trying to scare you out of the surgery.  Then ask yourself what it is that you are really fearing.

to quote my Dad, "You pay your money and you take your chances".

I wish I could give you advice, but i can only give you understanding -- I've seen those stories, and, yeah, it's scary. Surgery is scary, period. But I think you seem to know what to do -- try to talk with recent patients. The question isn't was he good, but is he good now?

However, these do seem to be isolated cases, even if they are every bit as bad as they appear.

Sada.

The simplist thing to do is ask a Dr whom you do trust, what his opinion is.

But the worst possible thing to do is nothing. You absolutely must trust whoever you give this amount of responsibility to.

I too, early on in my FFS surgeon research, came across this hack job site against DR. O. It scared the heck out of me. After much more consideration, he stayed on my list. I had joined a Yahoo FFS group and watched those reports very closely.

The only negative I would say about Dr. O, is that he is getting on in age and is pricey. I might have used him, except that he took too long to get back to me with a written consult and quote.

I personally know 3-4 women who have gone to him and are satisfied. If you send me an email, I will put you in touch with 2 women that just got back from San Francisco and Dr. O.

Personally, I used Dr. Stephen Pincus in LA. I just felt comfortable with his approach and quality.

If you want and need major facial surgery, including bone work (forehead, chin and jawline) in addition to soft work, then he's excellent. Don't get more surgical procedures than you need, and make sure to get a few different consults.

Don't sweat it. Go with your gut and trust your judgment.

BTW, in this economy prices may or may not be negotiable, too. Good luck!

One of our forum members and a on staff in chat, Meghan got her ffs with Dr. O. Check out Meghan's blog here on the forum- https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/board,187.0.html She has pictures of what she looks like now. Also I'm sure she'd be happy to answer your questions if you shoot her a PM or catch her in chat.

Any man worth marrying, is a man who has a great degree of love and compassion for you and your situation. There are plenty of TS women who have successfully married the man of their dreams.

Don't worry, if you believe it can happen, it very well may!

I think any doctor can have an off day, after all we are all human. I have seen some of the Dr Os results and they looked great, but I am sure he has messed up a few times.
I just had FFS myself 2 weeks ago but I did not chose Dr O because of his age and I liked the results I saw from Dr Spiegel here in Boston and since I live in Boston having my surgery done locally was a huge plus and be able to recover at home. For me is too early to tell if I am satisfied with the results because I am still swollen, let me say that so far I am not very impressed by the results but I am glad I still look like me (kinda a bit more swollen)
Right now I am concern about my nose since it was smaller and straight before my surgery but now seems bigger and a bit lopsided I hope this is just inflammation and it goes away.
Anyhow please do your research very carefully and like you said you only have one face and you don't want to mess it up, if you have any questions please feel free to email me or message me.

Sada, is your face so totally horribly male that you need all that surgery?  Care to show us a pix?
If you have just restarted HRT and are less than 21 your face will change quite a bit anyway and remember that lots of the procedures you are wanting will have to be redone later if for any reason you lose or gain weight.

Right now I'm sat here 5days after nose job and apart from now having a bigger space between top lip and nose I can't see any difference but I see the surgeon this afternoon to have the splint off so maybe I will be thrilled or maybe I will have to wait quite a few weeks to get an idea of what the final result will be.

As for never having a relationship, well that's a mental block that you will have to climb over or you will always be single.
You've only to walk down the street to see that some great guys have plain women and vice versa.   The stuff that binds them together is personality. 
Start getting a peronality that makes everyone say 'she's a nice woman'.

Two things.

1. With those links we know very little about the people posting them. What did they look like before for a start. They may not have been pretty after... but they may even have been worse before. Also people will post all sorts of things on the net for all sorts of strange reasons, not all of them truth! Sometimes they have fallen out with the doctor and are exacting some sort of revenge. Sometimes they were unrealistic to start with, and sometimes things just do go wrong despite everyone's best efforts!

2. Gilding the Lily is a danger. If you don't NEED something then don't have it. Perfection is a slippery eel in this life. If you try for perfection it almost always slips through your fingers. The worst thing you can do is try to fix something that isn't broken! So you need to be brutally honest with yourself and not have some fantasy about being perfect - paradoxically surgery can often fix big defects very effectively it is not effective at fixing small ones because at that level the operation scars and other inevitable imperfections in the process may cause more damage than the tiny fault that you seek to fix.

So BE HONEST - and don't pursue an unrealistic level of perfection, but if you do have real flaw that you want fixed then there is no reason that I can see to think that Dr O. is anything less than a highly professional man who will do his best for you.

You just need to understand that SURGERY is not rocket science - unexpected things CAN sometimes go wrong. Heck even rocket scientists get the occasional screwup - and I should know because in my early career I was the person who wrote the software that controlled the Instron machine and analysed the data to test the Rubber "O" rings, the failure of which was the cause of the Challenger disaster! So I was INTIMATELY involved in that one (FACT!) I was kind of right at ground zero and that's one reason why I gave up engineering and got into television instead.

Point is such unexpected things do occasionally happen, but they are rare - and it really isn't a reason to stop unless you are being unrealistic. What you have to do is weigh up the costs and risks, against the benefit. If the benefit is bigger - then you go ahead, and I am sure things will be fine!

Hello Sada...

Try not to get too overwhelmed by it all....though very stressful it is when making Dr/Surgeon choices....the only reason I personally wouldn't use Dr O now is his age.....I'm guessing he'll be in his seventies plus.... and unless he's had eye grafts....

(Sewing soft-tissue work is eye-hand co-ordination handicrafts skills in my book)

So I would prefer my Dr to be in his 40-60's top of his game mark....

Doctors I've met consulted with so far....(I'm in the UK)

Dr Bart van de Ven – London
Dr Toby Meltzer – Arizona

These I'll do too for comparisons on costs and what they'll suggest....

Di Maggio – Argentina
Dr. Yaremchuk – Boston...

I think technically Dr Y's my favourite choice at currently, as I'm 52 and he's very, very accomplished with older faces.... and I'm looking for a facelift specialist more than FFS....you sees...

But final costs and location all have a relevance for me....too...

Good luck

But you're right to think it through very, very carefully.... a face is a one off deal...no second chances.....

Though yuff on yer side helps....lol

I have heard Dr. O is one of the best in the world. Sometimes people may have undesirable results and they make it their life's mission to tell their story and dissuade others from using them.

Which is why I would do as many consults as you can...

If you join Yahoo groups ffs they have a very good database of before/after pics....

And there are at half-a-dozen other surgeons that could help you in the US apart from Dr O....

FFS has some risk.  Anyone who has six FFS proceedures at once needs to face the reality that the liklihood of obtaining undesirable results from at least one of them is rather high.  It might just be some permanent numbness in the chin, or it might be some partial paralysis of an eye or mouth corner.  Or it might be permanent post nasal drip from agressive brow surgery.  Or it might be something visible.

The visible ones get a lot of publicity, but its the invisible ones that seem to be more common.  That's just the reality of our situation.  Those who have great results with no negative side effects are actually very lucky. 

I'd say, don't expect optimal results, but get FFS anyway if you need it.  For those of us who need it, it's not something we can live without.  The odds of overall improvement are very high, and the negative side effects that occur often are more tolerable than the alternative of going without FFS.

*How many people here have had surgery and like three days later when something does not seem right you cannot reach your doctor*...

Indeed.....

If there are probs afterward as always the universal get-out is 'you' opted to do it.....

(No one forces you with a gun at your head so to speak when its deemed cosmetic)

Which is why if in doubt.....don't!

But if you do...you'll have to live with the consequences either way....

Luckily for the vast majority of us....we get away with it more oft than not.....

But with all surgeries 1-5 in the complication factor....

So I just tend to think lucky when lying in the trolley.... and make sure I've picked as wisely as I can....lol 

Sorry I didn't read everything here and with my massive amount of limited time recently I'll try to answer as best as I can.  I went to O back in July and everything is great with him.  He is super compassionate and just a cool guy in general to talk to.  I really appreciate everything he did and I think that everything turned out great.  I'm still swollen in a few areas, but things are progressing nicely and I really wouldn't be in the same place without him. 

If it helps ya out PM me and I can send you the before and afters too.

Quote from: Sada on October 07, 2010, 04:17:12 PM
someone sent me an email with links saying Dr. O was a butcher !!! and would destroy my face. I read the articles on the links. I do not know if I am allowed to post them here. (let me know if I can???)  They were horrible

Sada

Sure. That is called FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt).
I had the same kind of "information" long before going to have my FFS by Dr Ousterhout a few months ago, it all appeared to be just that : FUD, apparently originated by an unsatisfied ex-patient (and I bet I know exactly which pages you are referring to). I found out after spending days tracking the origin of all that stuff. I also found out that that particular disgrunteld patient who went subsequently to another (much less skilled of course) surgeon was not satisfied either, which indicates that whatever the result, she would not have been satisified. Some people are just like that.

You have to know beforehand that every cosmetic procedure carries a risk, and you can never know how it will turn out before your recovery is somplete. You have to manage your expectations. FFS is meant to feminize your face, and it takes months for the face to recover after it.

I had my FFS 5 months ago by Dr Ousterhout and I'm still observing changes week after week. I would not be surprised if it takes a year to settle down completely, as I knew beforehand. I'm taking daily "standard" photos of my face, which I intend to join in an animation when I am fully recovered.

The positive note is that my face is still "me" : my face, but the female version of it. And I like it.

The pain, the cost, the waiting, it's all worth it.