Hi i want to be mtf but im still in school and live with my parents, so i cant buy pills or injections since they wont support me (they dont know yet), so id like to start feminization with fat redistribution, im totally apple shaped right now is it possible to become pear shaped?

You could try various exercises to help develop your body into a more feminine shape.  Some have used herbal things, but very few have ever had any luck with it.

If you're googling around on this you'll inevitably find information on self medding; DON'T DO IT.  When you buy drugs illicitly, you have no idea what's going into them, and you have no idea what harmful effects they might be having on your body.  That cheap Mexican estrogen might help, or it might give you a DVT...or it might be cyanide.  You really can't be sure unless you get things through a legitimate pharmacy. 

That said, one thing I've heard repeated on another board is peppermint tea; I have no idea how effective it actually is (the skeptic in me thinks that it's probably a nice placebo,) but yeah, I've seen some who swore by it. 

sttc1   how do you know they won't support you?  There are lots of posts on Susan's from youngsters whose parents turned out to be very supportive.
If you were a bit girlie as a child the reality of you being TS won't be such a surprise to the parents.  were you ever a crossdresser? quote 'all ts were crossdressers but not all crossdressers are ts.'
other than that you could diet the apple into a pear

Quote from: long.897 on October 21, 2010, 12:23:39 AM
If you're googling around on this you'll inevitably find information on self medding; DON'T DO IT.  When you buy drugs illicitly, you have no idea what's going into them, and you have no idea what harmful effects they might be having on your body.  That cheap Mexican estrogen might help, or it might give you a DVT...or it might be cyanide.  You really can't be sure unless you get things through a legitimate pharmacy. 

That said, one thing I've heard repeated on another board is peppermint tea; I have no idea how effective it actually is (the skeptic in me thinks that it's probably a nice placebo,) but yeah, I've seen some who swore by it.

Yea cause cutting the drug with cyanide is just such good business  (which legal or not, is what it is) ...


Ya know... people do illicit drugs like heroin and ->-bleeped-<- daily for YEARS without dying......... I think perhaps you might be overstating the risk a tad with your cyanide comment.

And hey, I'm not endorsing self medication, I think it's usually a bad idea. But I also think this anti-self medication propaganda is BS.

Quote from: Ashley4214 on October 21, 2010, 04:10:31 AM
Yea cause cutting the drug with cyanide is just such good business  (which legal or not, is what it is) ...

Ya know... people do illicit drugs like heroin and ->-bleeped-<- daily for YEARS without dying......... I think perhaps you might be overstating the risk a tad with your cyanide comment.

And hey, I'm not endorsing self medication, I think it's usually a bad idea. But I also think this anti-self medication propaganda is BS.

Self medication is a bad move simply because it's impossible to get your hormone levels checked regularly and adjusted as needed.. Incorrect hormone levels can lead to a number of health issues.. And OK, cyanide is probably going a little too far, but unless you are getting your hormones from a reputable source, there's also the risk you are paying good money for sugar..

Quote from: Janet Lynn on October 21, 2010, 12:11:00 AM
You could try various exercises to help develop your body into a more feminine shape.  Some have used herbal things, but very few have ever had any luck with it.

you got any examples for various exercises?

Quote from: long.897 on October 21, 2010, 12:23:39 AM
If you're googling around on this you'll inevitably find information on self medding; DON'T DO IT.  When you buy drugs illicitly, you have no idea what's going into them, and you have no idea what harmful effects they might be having on your body.  That cheap Mexican estrogen might help, or it might give you a DVT...or it might be cyanide.  You really can't be sure unless you get things through a legitimate pharmacy. 

That said, one thing I've heard repeated on another board is peppermint tea; I have no idea how effective it actually is (the skeptic in me thinks that it's probably a nice placebo,) but yeah, I've seen some who swore by it.

thx ill keep that in mind

Quote from: lilacwoman on October 21, 2010, 03:00:13 AM
sttc1   how do you know they won't support you?  There are lots of posts on Susan's from youngsters whose parents turned out to be very supportive.
If you were a bit girlie as a child the reality of you being TS won't be such a surprise to the parents.  were you ever a crossdresser? quote 'all ts were crossdressers but not all crossdressers are ts.'
other than that you could diet the apple into a pear

cause we've been living together so long and im pretty masculin in public all my life (like hairstyle, clothing), if i confess its gonna ruin everybody's lives, so i guess my public life will be lived as a male (can accept that), however i still want to be more feminine on the intimate side.
yes i had crossdressing fetish since kid age, not sure if it is caused by the fact that ive been flooded with estrogen from food for a long time before puberty to the extent that people cant tell if im a boy or a girl. My diet changed dramatically at 12 yo so i became more and more masculin, yet the mental effect lasted i believe.

Hi sttc1

I found the post that lists them.  Look and see if they can work for you.  https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,85077.msg603570.html#msg603570

Quote from: sttc1 on October 21, 2010, 08:20:08 AM
cause we've been living together so long and im pretty masculin in public all my life (like hairstyle, clothing), if i confess its gonna ruin everybody's lives, so i guess my public life will be lived as a male (can accept that), however i still want to be more feminine on the intimate side.
yes i had crossdressing fetish since kid age, not sure if it is caused by the fact that ive been flooded with estrogen from food for a long time before puberty to the extent that people cant tell if im a boy or a girl. My diet changed dramatically at 12 yo so i became more and more masculin, yet the mental effect lasted i believe.

I've pretended to be a man for 35 years and my family and friends have been supportive of my transition.. If you are TG/TS you might be able to suppress it for now, but there will come a time where you have little or no choice but to transition..

Quote from: Janet Lynn on October 21, 2010, 10:35:52 AM
Hi sttc1

I found the post that lists them.  Look and see if they can work for you.  https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,85077.msg603570.html#msg603570

I was expecting some food to replace HRT lol, but ill take that into consideration, thx Janet

Quote from: kelly_aus on October 21, 2010, 02:00:17 PM
I've pretended to be a man for 35 years and my family and friends have been supportive of my transition.. If you are TG/TS you might be able to suppress it for now, but there will come a time where you have little or no choice but to transition..

Ill wait and see.

Quote from: kelly_aus on October 21, 2010, 05:58:20 AM
Self medication is a bad move simply because it's impossible to get your hormone levels checked regularly and adjusted as needed.. Incorrect hormone levels can lead to a number of health issues.. And OK, cyanide is probably going a little too far, but unless you are getting your hormones from a reputable source, there's also the risk you are paying good money for sugar..

I agree with agree with pretty much everything you just said.

My issue is I still think that's probably better than staying the wrong sex, if that's the two options it ends up being.

bye

my puberty is done lol thx anyway for the effort sada (very interesting websites tho)

bye