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Are they trying to kill me?

Started by E, November 16, 2010, 02:02:55 PM

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E

Hey, all - a few of you may vaguely remember me. I posted a little bit a while back, and have since kinda withdrawn, since it feels like there is little to learn that applies at this stage. My initial questions ("am I trans? What will HRT do? How good are the results of SRS?") have been answered quite thoroughly (to whit, "YES!", "Enough" and "Good enough"). It's been several months since I first contacted a psychologist, and when I contacted that psychologist, that was because I needed help now. As in, immediately. I had only just allowed myself to stop repressing the constant feelings of inferiority, shame, resentment, and self-loathing, and linked them to transsexualism, but the amount of stuff locked away in my subconscious was staggering, and unbearable at first.

When I say "unbearable at first", you may take that to mean "but more and more bearable over time". But no - it's pretty much only escalated, and is way past merely "unbearable" at this point. When I first went to the psychologist, it was with the understanding that a society as modern, civilized, and humane as the one I live in would, of course, see my predicament, and help me as soon as reasonably possible. It's been several months already, and nothing has happened - I've been referred to a specialist on sexuality and gender issues, and had a consultation, but she knew less about transsexualism than I did after just a couple of months, and she consistently misgendered even post-transition trans people, and she used slurs. On top of that, she refused to refer me into the program yet. After leaving her office, I was closer to suicide than I've ever been before in my life, and I haven't recovered afterwards.

However, things are worse than this - turns out the system not only requires 1-2 full years of therapy before you're allowed any level of HRT at all (and I haven't even managed to get myself into the beginning stages of that program - I'm still waiting to be referred to the stage where I'll be required to wait for 1-2 years) - they also require "real-life experience" before HRT, and will require me to prove that I can function in the new gender role. But the thing is, I can't function in any role at all! My depression and dysphoria are severe enough that getting out of bed in the morning is an epic, heroic struggle, and I'm unable to even follow the most basic university courses. Every day, I stave off the urge to self-harm, or to harm others. Every night, I stare into the wall for hours before I can fall asleep, feeling the remains of my youth slip away from my fingers.

So, in order to be allowed HRT, I need to function normally. I need HRT to function normally. I need HRT in order to get HRT, and self-medication is punished by refusal of transition.

In order to get HRT, I need HRT, which would lead to me being denied HRT.

WHEN DID FRANZ KAFKA BECOME THE AUTHOR OF MY LIFE???

Every single day is unbearable, and I have to live in this state for over a year in order to be allowed out of it. If I try to wait that long, I'm pretty sure I'd be suicidal long before. It seems to me like the system has been specifically designed in order to drive me, and other like me, to suicide. They're murderers, and they're in total control of my life.

There is only one out: I need to self-medicate, and I need to hide that fact from the authorities. In any event, I can't keep waiting, because my youth is slipping away, and how can I grow into an elderly lady when I've never been a young girl? Problem is, all reputable online pharmacies refuse to ship here because of our strict rules, so that means I'm stuck with the disreputable ones, the medicine from whom can't be trusted not to kill me. Which leads me back to my point: The system is trying to kill me!

Oh, they probably view themselves as righteous and helpful, but they're still trying to kill me.

I would give up an arm and both legs for HRT. I'd be willing to lose contact with all my friends and family for the rest of my life. Hell, I'd prostitute myself, and if I was told that, in order to get HRT, I'd have to kill someone? I'm not sure I wouldn't. I'd rather have HRT than food. My body as it exists is an abomination, and I abhor it. It poisons everything I do, everything I have even the slightest contact with. It always has.

There is only one thing left to add: I will not die. I will not allow them to win. I will not allow my corpse and spirit to be violated by being remembered as a man. I am going to transition, even if I have to emigrate, or take unsafe medications, or rob a pharmacy in order to get there. And if I take bad HRT and die, I can think of no better way to go. But that is a last resort. For now, I will survive one more day. Just one more. As always.

I need help right now, and I won't get it.

Thanks for listening.
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spacial

E

I'm really sorry to read this. Try to hang in there. I know you want to experience things while young. But sadly, for many of us, that way is blocked.

Also sorry about all the crap that's been dug up. Perhaps you could spend some time thinking about it so you can get on top?
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Cruelladeville

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Northern Jane

Back in the 1960's when I was under legal age (teens) and doctors didn't know squat, I just kept  going from doctor to doctor and looking for someone who knew his backside from a hole in the ground. I finally found a doctor who had enough smarts (and compassion) to know I was going to DIY any way I could and decided it was better that my HRT be supervised.
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E

Quote from: Northern Jane on November 16, 2010, 07:29:00 PM
Back in the 1960's when I was under legal age (teens) and doctors didn't know squat, I just kept  going from doctor to doctor and looking for someone who knew his backside from a hole in the ground. I finally found a doctor who had enough smarts (and compassion) to know I was going to DIY any way I could and decided it was better that my HRT be supervised.
Everything I've heard leads me to believe that no independent doctor will give me HRT - that is the exclusive purview of the national GID clinic, who are somewhat notorious for gatekeeping.

Quote from: Cruelladeville on November 16, 2010, 04:37:02 PM
Which country do you reside in?
Norway.

Quote from: spacial on November 16, 2010, 04:23:29 PMI'm really sorry to read this. Try to hang in there. I know you want to experience things while young. But sadly, for many of us, that way is blocked.
I'm gonna hang in there as long as I can. I'm lucky enough to have a wonderful girlfriend who can help take my mind off things, so there's that.

As for youth, if I do get through the system, I'll have SRS before age 25. The problem is, I want it before I'm 23, and I want it after I've been on HRT for a while. Also, I'm probably gonna try to get SRS out-of-country, by one of the more reputable doctors out there - I do not trust the ones they have here to provide a satisfactory result.

QuoteAlso sorry about all the crap that's been dug up. Perhaps you could spend some time thinking about it so you can get on top?
I've been trying. I've decided to self-medicate at the earliest opportune moment, and then just lie to the clinic about it. I think it's the only way to get out on top.
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JessicaH

I'm so sorry to hear that you are having so much trouble. From what I have heard in the US, therapists just realize how serious you are if you self medicate and consider that an indicator that you are truely TS. Hang in there and keep fighting!

Big Hug, Stacy
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Jillieann Rose

E I am so sorry to hear of your problem. Let me ask a silly question.
Why can't you move to another country and get help there?
Do hold on girl. Take it one day at a time.
Jillieann
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glendagladwitch

Damn.  Who knew Norway was so tarded?

If you have the money, you can just self-medicate and then go to Thailand and get the surgery, or so I hear. 

It's hard to fault anyone for doing that with obstacles like these.
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E

Quote from: StacyBeaumont on November 16, 2010, 08:28:45 PM
I'm so sorry to hear that you are having so much trouble. From what I have heard in the US, therapists just realize how serious you are if you self medicate and consider that an indicator that you are truely TS. Hang in there and keep fighting!

Big Hug, Stacy
*hugs back*

Thanks - I'm gonna try.

Quote from: Jillieann on November 16, 2010, 08:47:12 PM
E I am so sorry to hear of your problem. Let me ask a silly question.
Why can't you move to another country and get help there?
Do hold on girl. Take it one day at a time.
Jillieann
That's one option I'm seriously considering, but there are some serious downsides to that plan, as well.

Quote from: glendagladwitch on November 16, 2010, 09:11:52 PM
Damn.  Who knew Norway was so tarded?

If you have the money, you can just self-medicate and then go to Thailand and get the surgery, or so I hear. 

It's hard to fault anyone for doing that with obstacles like these.
I want to self-medicate and then go to Thailand or somewhere and get surgery, but the problem is finding some way to actually get the medications.

Here, the only way to transition is via the national GID clinic, which is run by a gatekeeper and has staff which is essentially handpicked by her.
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JohnR

QuoteEvery day, I stave off the urge to self-harm, or to harm others

Unless that statement was made out of pure frustration, it's disturbing and needs to be addressed. The system sucks, but harming someone else is going to put hormone therapy even further out of your reach.
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E

Quote from: JohnR on November 18, 2010, 10:02:16 AM
Unless that statement was made out of pure frustration, it's disturbing and needs to be addressed. The system sucks, but harming someone else is going to put hormone therapy even further out of your reach.
The statement was technically true, but a bit overstated - it's not like I go around constantly having to fight down the uncontrollable urge to maim, crush, kill, but I generally find myself wishing harm onto the people in charge of this system quite often. I also have rare violent urges at random, but these are easily controllable and only come up in the very worst bouts of dysphoria.

I should perhaps have reformulated that into "I wish some specific people would die in a fire", but I wasn't really in the mood to review my own writing.
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Emmanuelle

Gosh, it makes me quiet. I'm sorry to hear that. I thought Scandinavian countries were always so far advanced in social stuff.
Just keep your mind to it, I'm sure their must be a way to come to a solution. have you spoken to local support groups?

warm hugs,
Emma
Nobody can go back and start a new beginning, but anyone can start today and make a new ending.
- Maria Robinson
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E

Quote from: Emma on November 18, 2010, 12:17:16 PM
Gosh, it makes me quiet. I'm sorry to hear that. I thought Scandinavian countries were always so far advanced in social stuff.
Just keep your mind to it, I'm sure their must be a way to come to a solution. have you spoken to local support groups?

warm hugs,
Emma
What support groups?

Normally, we're pretty good. It just turns out that this particular part of the Norwegian health care system is a black hole.
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Aegir

Listen to me- you have been a young girl despite how others saw you, and you're going to be OK, and you're going to get through this without intentionally hurting yourself or anyone else. You can do this, and someday other people will call you miss- or whatever that translates to  wherever it is you find yourself when you've come to that point in your life. You just can't give up.
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spacial

Quote from: glendagladwitch on November 16, 2010, 09:11:52 PM
Damn.  Who knew Norway was so tarded?

Quote from: Emma on November 18, 2010, 12:17:16 PM
I thought Scandinavian countries were always so far advanced in social stuff.

In just the last few months, things seem to be getting increasingly negative in Europe.
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Emmanuelle

Quote from: spacial on November 20, 2010, 08:44:40 AM
In just the last few months, things seem to be getting increasingly negative in Europe.

Must be more of a Norwegian thing then. I haven't seen the situation changing all that much in Belgium (at least not in a negative sense).

Emma
Nobody can go back and start a new beginning, but anyone can start today and make a new ending.
- Maria Robinson
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spacial

Quote from: Emma on November 21, 2010, 03:53:41 AM
Must be more of a Norwegian thing then. I haven't seen the situation changing all that much in Belgium (at least not in a negative sense).

Emma

Really pleased to hear that. I did over generalise to be frank and apologise. I'm still shaking with what is happening to Jeatyn.

The astonishing tacit attacks from Stonewall UK. The utter quiet from any supportive groups.

There is so much legislation, recognising the rights of transgenderd people, in the UK as well as Europe, I honestly thought our society was moving froward.

Perhaps I'm just looking at things through a dark cloud.
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Cruelladeville

I know Norway well as a visitor....

But I've no idea as to the system with healthcare though the national Nog helicopter response service is first rate (you have such a large sovereign wealth fund)....lol

I wonder what the system is like if you be post-op?

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Emmanuelle

Quote from: spacial on November 21, 2010, 04:06:25 AM
I did over generalise to be frank and apologise.
No worries  :-*

Didn't follow the Jeatyn story so I can't comment on that.

And yes, clouds will always be there and the optimal world is still far far away. On the other hand, when we look at what has been achieved over the last couple of decades, we're moving in the better direction ;)

Love,
Emma
Nobody can go back and start a new beginning, but anyone can start today and make a new ending.
- Maria Robinson
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lilacwoman

Hi E,
I'm sorry to hear that Norway is taking such a medieval attitude to transsexuals and refusing to follow recent develeopments.

But as Norway is signed up to the European Human Rights legislation go try find a lawyer who can take your case to Strasbourg. 
Or for that matter if you ask a lawyer to do so and they make no headway then you are entitled to make a claim direct yourself.
Have a look at the ECHR website.
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