Quote from: Forum Admin on December 08, 2010, 03:18:12 AM
Haha you don't want to see my ugly mug. 
Regarding socialization - I think one of the keys to remember is guys are more innocent than girls. By that, I mean there's more good faith. Two guys can get in a fight and then become friends afterwards. And a guy is more likely to say things to your face. Girls, it's all backwards. They'll smile and then plot against you. And every girl sorts you as to whether you're prettier or uglier than her. If she thinks you're uglier, she's your best friend. If you're prettier, watch your back. It doesn't matter how friendly you are with girls. You can't win them over. And if a guy laughs at you, he's joking. If a girl laughs at you, she's serious.

It's strange how nice girls suddenly are to me now I'm a guy.

From this description two of Erocse's brothers must be girls. HA HA HA....Sorry I could not help myself.

That brings up another important point, men rarely laugh with each other so much as at each other.

But not as much as they laugh at themselves.

QuoteWell, it may seem a little harsh. Girls aren't all bad. Just underhanded.

Thanks Forum Admin.
I do resemble that fact. 

You know that I've know you on here for many years.
And do kid yourself, you are cute sweety.

Jillieann

Quote from: Mrs Erocse on December 08, 2010, 11:07:09 AM
From this description two of Erocse's brothers must be girls. HA HA HA....Sorry I could not help myself.

I don't know these fellows, obviously, but you may be onto something here.

I confess, I've often been quite curious about men who seem so unsure of themselves in this way.

Women, by their nature, compete with each other on a one to one basis. Their peer groups are never as fromal as men's. I tend to believe that much of the intolerance shown by women, is a factor of thir personal positioning.

But men should have their positions within their peer group. Provided something doesn't threaten their position, or the alpha male, there really doesn't seem to be a lot to be gained by intolerance.

That suggests that, that type of intolerance is born out of their insecurity.

as M2F and still trying to work out all thats in my head i decided to start out by telling all those that matter most to me just WHO i am.

And the most amazing thing is happening ... they are all saying so? you are still you aren't you?

i spending more and more time as a woman and going out more.... i became very reclusive when i first found i NEEDED to step into the role of a woman as much as possible.

I found the more i was a woman the happier i was, the more i wanted to be a woman.... Counseling also opened my eyes to all the possibilities i had open to me.

Baby steps to begin tell those that matter most. and my parents were most upset my cried my dad cried because they thought they had let me down because i felt like i couldn't tell them when i first realized.... i was 42 when i told them..... Don't make my mistake... i lived in hell for at least 37 years

Thank you Majik.

That is both heart warming and inspiring. I'm really pleased for you.

Quote from: spacial on December 08, 2010, 07:28:41 PM
Thank you Majik.

That is both heart warming and inspiring. I'm really pleased for you.

I second what Spacial said.

Hugs.
Patty

Thank you Majik and welcome to Susan's
I'm glad that, after all that time, you can be accepted and happy.

Ho man, my situation is close to yours. Just think of it as a doorway, going to the psychatrist is one step, you still have time to see after that! Take it easy.

For me personally, I'v been putting if off for like 15 years or so just thinking I was 'different' then what society wants from women.When real life came, it hit harder then a brick into the face. And the thought 'I don't think I'm a girl at all, I hate all this woman crap' became a weird reality that was possible, and and my whole past shows, has always been there. I'm just gone take care of it before I go down.

Quote from: spacial on December 08, 2010, 11:05:18 AM
This seems to be the point for us though. We are forced, by our physical appearance, to associate with people with whom we have little in common.

Sometimes I wish I could frame a quote, this is so true. I feel like an alien in groups of women.

Same here Aikotribs, except it's in a group of men.
I never know what to say and  just can relate.
I just feel so out of place.
One man no problem and if he's cute all the better.

Jillieann

Quote from: Mrs Erocse on December 08, 2010, 11:07:09 AM
From this description two of Erocse's brothers must be girls. HA HA HA....Sorry I could not help myself.

Aww I hope I didn't come off too harsh.

Not at all.....Perhaps I did.

I got a hold of the counseling center here, and they're full for over a month.   
I'm set with an appointment for January 24th, which I guess at least gives me a good amount of time to figure out what I want to say.  However, it also means I get to spend winter break antsy about it.