What kind of changes have you seen while on m2f hrt? I have never heard of it but it seems that the color on my upper lip line seems to be expanding a little bit.  A few years ago, i took E and DP for 2 months and it caused a little irregularity in my upper lipline. It wasnt noticed by anyone but me and I thought it was a coincidence until recently it has started changing again and continuing the pattern. Has anyone else ever seen this?

Also, what other changes have  you seen with lips and hrt? Does hrt make your mouth look more fem?

I've been wondering this as well.  Hoping...DREAMING....my lips get saved with HRT.  Even just a little fuller would be nice!

Same here hoping something happens with my lips once I start HRT.

I found the following on Wikipedia  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormone_replacement_therapy_(male-to-female))

QuoteSubcutaneous adipose tissue increases in the face (cheeks and lips) making the face appear puffier, appears to "round out" the face, and the face appears less "drawn" or "hollow" with slightly less emphasis on the jaw due to the lower portion of the cheeks having filled in.

Absolutely no change for me.

i think in this short time they got slightly fuller, but i might be imagining that

Yeah I didn't experience any lip changes in the last year that I know of

How large is the cosmetics/PS business?

And what percentage of that is lipped based?

Nope no changes.  Been thinking about the collagen injections.

anecdotally, the younger one starts HRT the more likely that the lips will respond the same as a cis woman.

Caroline

I ask because when I look in th the mirror it looks like a a guys mouth with lipstick. I dont need anything glamorous, but i just want a pretty and feminine smile...   

Quote from: StacyBeaumont on January 05, 2011, 10:23:27 AM
I ask because when I look in th the mirror it looks like a a guys mouth with lipstick. I dont need anything glamorous, but i just want a pretty and feminine smile...   

Get some collagen injections. They're relatively cheap.

Quote from: carolinejeo on January 05, 2011, 05:31:18 AM
anecdotally, the younger one starts HRT the more likely that the lips will respond the same as a cis woman.

Medically, the lip shape is fixed from well before puberty.

There's not been any change that I can see, but in the interests of pseudo-scientific study I'll let everyone else decide. I found two pictures with similar facial expressions

pre hrt...feeling depressed


4 months post HRT...again feeling depressed, but thankfully over nothing (I'm a silly girl)

Likewise:



My lips actually look slightly fuller pre-HRT.

Now all we need is a third comparison for the control and we've got enough data to give the definitive pseudo-scientific answer on the matter.

Pseudo-science...for when facts just don't cut it.

Vexing definitely has smaller looking lips in the more recent photo.

Quote from: Helena on January 05, 2011, 01:40:13 PM
There's not been any change that I can see, but in the interests of pseudo-scientific study I'll let everyone else decide.

Your philtrum looks a lot different in the second photo.  Since the lighting is so different, it's hard to make any good conclusions.

QuotePseudo-science...for when facts just don't cut it.

We need more anecdata so I can produce some anecstatistics.

Quote from: VeryGnawty on January 05, 2011, 02:41:14 PM
Vexing definitely has smaller looking lips in the more recent photo.

Your philtrum looks a lot different in the second photo.  Since the lighting is so different, it's hard to make any good conclusions.

We need more anecdata so I can produce some anecstatistics.

To the anecmobile!
*Slides down anecpole*

Quote from: Vexing on January 05, 2011, 02:55:19 PM
To the anecmobile!
*Slides down anecpole*

Is there an anecave as well?

Quote from: Helena on January 05, 2011, 04:15:18 PM
Is there an anecave as well?

Of anecourse!