Brent you're very right it could've been worse. I just can't believe that he said that even if teens did bother him. I'm a twenty year old man who doesn't need some guy with a stick up his butt telling me where I can and cannot pee especially when he is a fellow co-worker... sorry I'm in an assertive mood tonight

An anonymous tip to campus security with his description should get it handled.

We always have our maintenance people on the lookout for drug use in the stalls.

But you should try and approach him and talk to him man to man.

And as 20 year old man you've probably got one, if not a solid couple of decades ahead of you to get used to people with sticks up their ass telling you what to do before you become that crusty old guy with the stick up your butt telling others what to do.

Quote from: xchrisx on March 15, 2011, 08:32:36 AM
Ah dude that sucks! Don't let one jerk get you down; don't let him stop you from using the stall either! I use the stall to pee also & know a good number of cis-guys who pee in the stall & even sit to pee.

I'm surprised this guy even gave you a hard time; I've found that guys generally don't pay any attention to what other guys are doing in the loo.

cheers bro

Seriously! I wtf'd so hard at that, that's...really kind of freakish. Even when I'm barely passing I've only ever gotten an initial weird looking heading in and I only use stalls. Big props for not freaking out, that definitely wouldn't have made things any easier. I'm with everyone else, keep track of the guy and if that kind of ->-bleeped-<- continues made a report or something. Nobody should have to be paranoid when they need to potty, damnit.

One place I work at has a sign in by the sink saying the urinals are this way with an arrow. 2 urinals and 2 stalls so whatever, the rest is locker room and showers.

Quote from: Ender on March 15, 2011, 01:02:32 PM
This is what first came to mind.  That, or since he's the janitor, he's sick of cleaning pee off of seats. 

I thought this, but then the rest of the description leads me to believe this jerk has singled you out. Maybe he's got some sort of anger-management issues or something? I think you did handle it appropriately but maybe taking note of the incident (like you have) or speaking to a supervisor if the guy gives you any additional problems might be to your benefit. It sounds like he may possibly be a jerk all-around and if you can remain anonymous when reporting him in the future it would be less likely for him to think it was you.

leads me to believe this jerk has singled you out
From the first post.
at the end of the night he was there yelling at everyone

kind of a unique definition of singled out

I'd also be very careful before I filed anything that gets stuck in my personal file to find out if this person is 'challenged'  (You have two choices in a company for people with mental and emotional difficulties, and those that don't wind up on the Board of Directors tend to end up in maintenance slots.)  If that is true, then your actions could be seen as ADA level harassment - which turns out to be a very two-edged sword.

Quote from: tekla on March 16, 2011, 12:47:49 PM
leads me to believe this jerk has singled you out
From the first post.
at the end of the night he was there yelling at everyone

kind of a unique definition of singled out

Oh yes, that's me, mr. unique definition. I have a lot of them.

But seriously - it sounded like from his post that the guy followed him around a bit and by the end of the night, coming up and standing next to him and huffing and puffing was enough to creep him out to leave.

Maybe the janitor is a little "off". But as I said if there's a second incident that seems to form a pattern it's often better in a workplace to have something documented or on record in case anything else happens. He should not mention anything about or insinuating the guy is "challenged" just that his comments and behavior were inappropriate, etc.

I tend to side with inside on this one. While yes he was yelling at everyone at the end of the night over stupid stuff it was after he followed me into the locker room and realized that there was nothing he could yell out me for. I forgot to mention that part so it was my fault for leaving out the information sorry Tekla.

Well as an update I came across him 3 times tonight and had no issues other than him glaring at me. I used the bathroom without fear (other than  my fear of not passing lately but I'll handle that if someone says something to me). I think maybe I caught him on a bad night but none the less I will be writing down anything that seems inappropriate and Tekla if the time comes and they give me a reason such as him being challenged then I will ask that he is spoken to about the inappropriate things but will not take it any farther than that.

appropriate response: f*** off or i'll just pee on you

or maybe thats just me 

Quote from: DRAIN on March 20, 2011, 08:52:48 PM
appropriate response: f*** off or i'll just pee on you

or maybe thats just me 

that's very close to what I was thinking at the time

Quote from: tekla on March 16, 2011, 12:32:55 AM
We always have our maintenance people on the lookout for drug use in the stalls.

But you should try and approach him and talk to him man to man.

And as 20 year old man you've probably got one, if not a solid couple of decades ahead of you to get used to people with sticks up their ass telling you what to do before you become that crusty old guy with the stick up your butt telling others what to do.

I guess we all need to breath in and enjoy our stick-free days while we can   LOL

Wait, wait, wait! The janitor yelled at you, and you didn't piss all over the floor? Sounds like a "golden" opportunity missed!

Dude!!! A grumpy old man yelled at you? This doesn't just mean you pass as a dude, It's a super pass as a dude!!! That's what grumpy old men do... They yell at younger guys and give what's for... Then they wander of and grumble to themselves

Welcome to manhood 

Quote from: Virginia Marie on March 21, 2011, 07:39:40 PM
Dude!!! A grumpy old man yelled at you? This doesn't just mean you pass as a dude, It's a super pass as a dude!!! That's what grumpy old men do... They yell at younger guys and give what's for... Then they wander of and grumble to themselves

Welcome to manhood 

You know what? This is totally true. Cant believe I overlooked it. Yep, super pass alert!

Quote from: Virginia Marie on March 21, 2011, 07:39:40 PM
Dude!!! A grumpy old man yelled at you? This doesn't just mean you pass as a dude, It's a super pass as a dude!!! That's what grumpy old men do... They yell at younger guys and give what's for... Then they wander of and grumble to themselves

Welcome to manhood 

Yay! Guess that means I really pass because the jerk of an old man singled me out to yell at me again tonight. My friends we joking about the fact that I had changed my button down shirt from my work one to my own button down and he went off on me for not changing it in the locker room. Seriously dude?! I mean it was the same thing as if I would've switched coats or something. Not like any skin was showing.... I now have allies who don't get along with him either though and one of those allies is a really hot chick. Honestly it made me consider thanking the crabby old man because she talked to me and defended me 

Quote from: Tracey on March 21, 2011, 06:54:12 PM
Wait, wait, wait! The janitor yelled at you, and you didn't piss all over the floor? Sounds like a "golden" opportunity missed!

lmao that was awesome Tracey  I love your sense of humor

Hahaha! Think about it - that old dude can provide unlimited entertainment at your job! XD You'll never be bored. I've heard similar work stories from cisguys about getting razzed on the job by grouchy older guys OR male supervisors. There also seems to be a pattern of "new guy hazing" as well. Go figure. It's awesome you're catching that girl's eye!