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is/are your inner voice(s) gendered?

Started by Mika, April 18, 2011, 08:59:34 PM

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Mika

Warning: this is a trivial curiosity.

For those of you who the term "inner voice(s)" is an applicable term for your thought structure, is/are your inner voice(s) gendered in any way? In terms of "voice" tone/quality, that is, and how you interpret/frame those qualities in terms of gender/non-gender, not the gender identity/identities of your consciousness. And, if so, does/do the "gender(s)" of your inner voice(s) match your gender identity/identities or are there nuances or incongruencies? Has it always been the same? Has it evolved over time, or does it cycle/vary over time normally?

For example, my "inner voice" has a deeper, masculine to androgynous tone/quality, and has as long as I can remember (even before coming to terms with my own gender stuffs), and sounds very different from my actual voice.

I have no idea what other people experience in this, and I'm just curious, and hoping someone else on here is to :)
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xxUltraModLadyxx

do you mean like a voice you hear in your head? it's kind of hard to remember what that voice sounds like to me. i'm not really sure if my brain is making a voice, but if it does, it's usually androgynous. not something that i would associate with male or female. if i'm silently reading, sometimes i'll say the words in my head, and it sounds like my own voice, other times it's just an androgynous verbalizing. it's not really something that's easy to notice, because it's very subconscious, and sometimes conscious.
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Yakshini

Because I'm thinking instead of hearing the voice, I couldn't describe the tone. If it is any gender... well, it wouldn't be gendered at all. My inner voice is very non-gendered.
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Alex201

My inner voice sounds like my own speaking voice
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xAndrewx

#4
My inner voice usually just... is. I mean it doesn't really have a tone but when it does have a tone it is male. And oddly deeper when I am angry.

spacial

Quote from: Yakshini on April 18, 2011, 09:26:27 PM
Because I'm thinking instead of hearing the voice, I couldn't describe the tone. If it is any gender... well, it wouldn't be gendered at all. My inner voice is very non-gendered.

I've very much along these lines as well.

I know, when I think about my inner voice, it is flat and without tone or colour. Almost as if it isn't actually a voice at all, in comparison to any others.
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kim_k

While I would say that my internal monologue doesn't sound particularly male or female in my own head, I'd have to say that it definitely has mannerisms that most people would probably associate with feminine speech as far as word choice, tone, and attention to grammar and decorum are concerned. Of course, this is how I talk so it makes perfect sense  :)
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Barbara

I think i have this female "intuition".I have avoided situations in the past with it.One person told me i have this 6th sense some times,and i have only known him about a year.I also had a dream recently were i looked down at myself and i was wearing a pretty black and white dress ( that i do not own).I usually don't see myself in dreams,but this one was vivid,almost real.I even remember the white belt.
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Arctic Kat

My internal voice isn't gender-specific -- it tends to sound like whoever's voice I find fun to listen to at the moment.
As of late, I've been hearing Paula Poundstone and Craig Ferguson...
Waarom mag een jongen nooit prinsesje
Waarom mag een meisje nooit superman zijn
Elke vogel bouwt z'n eigen nestje
Hier bij ons mag iedereen zijn wie ze zijn
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Maddi

Mine is my voice.....so I guess its however I feel at the time. Lol. If I feel all macho then my mind uses my male up bringing, but when I am alone relaxing its the natural me. If that makes sense.

Now this migjt sound weird, but when I read my physics textbooks, its Morgan Freeman. He is my personal teacher and makes it easier to understand. Lol. Dead honest.  ;D
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Yakshini

Quote from: spacial on April 19, 2011, 02:03:12 AM
I've very much along these lines as well.

I know, when I think about my inner voice, it is flat and without tone or colour. Almost as if it isn't actually a voice at all, in comparison to any others.
Exactly. If anything, my internal voice would be incredibly boring to hear out loud for having a complete lack of qualities.
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Tesseract Allen

Ummm, I don't really have an inner voice, I mean it's there sometimes but its mostly just there because I will it to be there. And in that effect it usually takes the speach patterns and vocalization of movie characers/TV Show/ Jim Dale(Listened to the HP book on tape waaayyy too much as a kid.)
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Michael Joseph

my inner voice is my voice now, how i hear it when it comes out, which is a little different than i sound reecorded or how others hear me. its more androgynous than anything i think. i dont remember  how it used to sound, i think just always how my regular voice sounded to me. this is a really interesting question though, i wonder if itll change when my voice drops

Mariposa

I don't really know if I would call what I have an inner voice. For me its more like I'm playing a movie in my head with the occasional commentary if that makes any sense?
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Tara L

My inner head voice is clearly female in subject and tone as are my dreams.
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JungianZoe

I've recently been pondering this in terms of anima/animus.  In the strict Jungian sense, men have anima (the female archetype) as their inner voice, women have animus (the male archetype).  But for those of us who are trans, does that get reversed or are we stuck with the archetype from our biological sense?

I personally believe that soul/spirit/whatever is genderless and that our bodies are fluid.  If an MTF (sorry, FTMs, been pondering this from my own point of view) was born with a biologically female brain and a male body, and always self-identifies as the opposite gender from their biological sex, then that person is, for all intents and purposes, female.  It would then make sense that animus is the guide for the MTF as anima would be for the FTM (though for different biological reasons, obviously).

The only time I can remember feeling a powerful, definitive anima presence was in a pair of dreams back when I was 13.  I dreamed that I was getting married, but at the last second, she said she had to go and left.  The next day, I was so devastated by my dream image that I couldn't stop crying.  I wished desperately for her to come back so we could be together.  That next night, I got what I wished for.  She came back, apologized, and explained that she had just died... though the plan was for us to be together in this life, it was no longer possible.  That's the last time I ever saw her, but I've never forgotten.  I've suffered gender dysphoria since I was at least 4 (the first time I remember shunning the company of other boys and praying to wake up a girl the next morning), so that dream, right on the brink of puberty, was striking in its timing, clarity, and message.

Was she the anima who would have guided me as a cisgender male?  I've finally, 20 years later, come to terms with my transsexuality and began hormones and RLE.  Did animus not show up these 20 years past because of the void in which I lived?  Is this why I turned into a hermit and preferred to drown out my inner dialog?  I don't know, but I keep hoping that some night soon, I'll see something that gives me the answers I seek.
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AVI

My inner voice is neutral. In fact, on the basis of this neutrality, when my therapist asked me if I felt male or female inside, I told her neutral shading into male.

Jungian psychology, at least the classical version thereof, depends so heavily on a gender binary.  Jungian psychology really struggles to fit gays and lesbians into its system, never mind the transgender. The whole idea of animus/anima assumes a certain natural, psychological heterosexuality -- the combination of the opposite-genders of ego and anima/animus producing a new, androgynous whole, a "beast with two backs" if you'll allow me the joke. Yet Jung was not necessarily kind to people who straddled the binary, as his case studies of "masculine" (really feminist) women show. I wonder what Jung would make of modern-day teenage boys wearing tight pants and make-up. I imagine him throwing up his hands in confusion. I think Jung had some intriguing ideas, but the anima/animus system clearly has problems, breaking down when in contact with gays and lesbians, or people who do not fit neatly into a gender binary.

On the other hand, I had a very Jungian dream a few years ago. In my dream, I met the "male" version of myself -- myself as I would have been if I had been born male. He was, of course, very handsome...but also really prissy and arrogant. I didn't get to see him too clearly, but I knew he was handsome somehow. He was totally in shadows, in fact, but I knew what he looked like, and even what he was wearing. That dream actually triggered my conscious awareness of having gender "issues", shall we say. Before then, I certainly had problems, but I could not allow myself to consider life as a man...it was too painful to conceive that my life had gone the wrong way. It's hard to accept that as being part of yourself when you are told it is a freakish and insane thing to feel.
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ravij

Quote from: Yakshini on April 18, 2011, 09:26:27 PM
Because I'm thinking instead of hearing the voice, I couldn't describe the tone.

This, obviously.
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~RoadToTrista~

My inner voice is like a bitchy but high spirited girl who says "Ugh!" before every sentence whenever she's disgusted, lolz

At least it was today :P
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Ashleyjadeism

I try not to pay attention to voices in my head... lol just kidding... My inner voice is just sort of a disembodied train of never-ending thought... Doesn't really have a gender...
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