Do you think its possible for doctors to reassign gender like they reassign sex and if it WAS possible would you opt for that solution instead of the physical changes ....... if you had a choice. 
I've noticed a lot of MtF say they want to become the woman they are  except they want to keep their penis which is incongruent to being a woman, but I get it I guess. So if they could be gender reassigned that would suit them perfectly. Like they would be reassigned the male gender to match their body instead of being reassigned female to match their gender.
Gender reassignment would also benefit my fellow andros too, it might be a bit harder due to the plural-ousity :-)  of our gender though. But I think changing a gender would be less tramatic then changing sex. Or do you think that's crazy?

No. Freakin'. Way.

I'd never in a million years wish to be a guy comfortable with being a guy, simply because I had the misfortune of being saddled with a guy's body.  I identify so strongly with my internal gender, with the social components of that gender, relating to others as that gender, that I could never be the other.  Gender binary?  You betcha.  Do I care?  Not a whit.

I am a woman.  My friends know this, my family knows this, and most importantly, every fiber of my being knows it.  The body can be whipped into shape.

Fix my gender?  There is nothing wrong with my gender, it is the body that is off.  Fix that and all is right with my world.

I am a woman with a birth defect.

You don't think reassigning a gender would be easier and less traumatic ? I don't know.

They have tried to do just that, but ECT and Drugs never worked.  Surgery is much easier.

Why change something in the mind that can be chaged in the body? It's like sayig I REALLY like chocolate and cherry icecream and have an EXTREAM dislike penutbutter cup crunch an then taking a pill/injection/crazy mind altering agent wave thing specifically to swap the two. Why do it when Chocolate and cherry ice cream is so much better?

Changing your gender (juxaposed to sex) is changing a part of who you are, I personally would rather go throught the hadship and trauma that the SRS/Transmorphing would produce then have my core essence mutilated.

I'll start considering that around the time I start considering a lobotomy.

As others have said, I'd rather not change who I am.

It would more then a little offencive to most us and would it stop there. Think your bi or gay? Well we can fix that too

dangerous roada hun

If there was a pill that could align the gender identity with your physical parts would you take it?  I've seen variations on this question and the answer is always the same - NO!  The reason being is my gender identity is part of who I am.  All I have ever been is based on it and many other factors and to 'fix' my identity would make me into a totally different person.  I wouldn't be who I am now.  I had my SRS about an month ago and, while I'm still swollen, in a little pain and certainly not completely healed, I'm feeling more feminine than I ever had.  I'm the me I was meant to be and this is the path I had to take to get here.  Anyone understand what I'm saying?

Teresa

Quote from: Domitia on May 08, 2011, 05:17:40 PM
I'll start considering that around the time I start considering a lobotomy.

This.

My brain is the deciding factor of who and what I am, and nothing is wrong with my brain. I don't want anyone messing with that.

To be honest it probably would have been al lot easier that way. Ultimately I just want my body to match who I am.  Am I the only who recognizes that the defect is my brain? It's not like I have XX chromosomes and a male body just appeared. Something went awry during the development of my nervous system. Of course it makes me functionally female in the brain department and so that's who I am.  It's precisely because we can't mess with the brain that we have to change the body. I'm not above considering changing my brain a bit to match the genetically intended body. Besides after the proposed treatment, assuming it's successful which is the premise of this discussion, I wouldn't care anyway.  Think of it like someone with OCD.  Instead of making everything clean, you just stop caring about the dirt.

Just one question:

Who gets to define what the male and female gender are in order to encode it into this little pill which will 'reassign' you to it?

Do they ask a million people what makes them male or female and then take the averages? Or is it nothing more than a vague 'feeling' that you should have the physical features you just happen to be stuck with. If the former then you'd be little more than a walking amalgamation of other people, with no bearing whatsoever on a self-identity. If the latter, it presumes that the only thing which makes someone male or female are the bits between their legs which is, frankly, a bit silly. And furthermore, if given this reassignment pill, wouldn't it make people little more than clones of all who have taken the pill, identical in their thought patterns? How is that an identity, either?

So the idea itself seems a little nonsensical. Do I think it's possible? Not in the slightest, and therefore the question of whether I would choose such an option is irrelevent.

Quote from: Maddie Secutura on May 08, 2011, 07:22:01 PM
To be honest it probably would have been al lot easier that way. Ultimately I just want my body to match who I am.  Am I the only who recognizes that the defect is my brain? It's not like I have XX chromosomes and a male body just appeared. Something went awry during the development of my nervous system. Of course it makes me functionally female in the brain department and so that's who I am.  It's precisely because we can't mess with the brain that we have to change the body. I'm not above considering changing my brain a bit to match the genetically intended body. Besides after the proposed treatment, assuming it's successful which is the premise of this discussion, I wouldn't care anyway.  Think of it like someone with OCD.  Instead of making everything clean, you just stop caring about the dirt.

True enough, but since the only place in which consciousness resides is the brain you start messing around with key components of personality. One change here and you might lose your artistic flare, another and you lose the drive for science. It's the same argument as the "If star trek teleporters were around today, would you use them?" sure it gets you places faster but is it really you coming out on the other side? Does your consciousness still reside within the disintegrated particles floating around the transporter room o does it transfer? If you change something so base in your personality will you still be you?

Another thing is the fact that we've been living with this defect, for however many years, means the change would be effecting the way we think. In that time brain plasticity will have started to create work arounds and changes that would end up benefiting the way the default was set up. If we could fix that part that was messed at birth then you'd most likely still have similar tendencies and interests you'd just be okay with your body in general, which may not be a bad thing but it's not going to completely fix everything.

In truth though it comes down to this question, are you doing this to make you happy or to fit in? If it's to make yourself happy, go ahead, if it's just to fit in I'd say no. But it's all personal preference.

Oh, oppinion warning.

EDIT:Second oh, if there's something Scientifically wrong about anything I say, call me out on it please, I need to be whacked in the head a few time for stating things before knowing more about them.

My mom asked me something like this long ago when I had first come out to her, she had asked me that if it were possible, and there were a way to change it so that you feel comfortable as a guy, in such as way that no thoughts at all were of wanting to be female, completely masculine, would you?

No. Never. I never was to begin with, that's what I was starting to understand about myself, that inside I wasn't a guy, that's why I was fighting so hard to get out, and that's why I continue to struggle to be the gender that I'm supposed to be on the outside as well as inside, female. And one of those necessary steps for me to ever feel comfortable with my external being is to get sex reassignment surgery someday, otherwise there'll always be some bit of misery there. Hormones can only do so much, still got the wrong parts and that's not an easy thing to live with. Besides, what if I took the other option, making so that my mind thinks its male, what kind of person would I be? Because of what would be involved, which could not be just solely chemical changes but perhaps brain structure as well, I could turn out to be a real jerk. I am who I am, I like who I am (most of the time), and what the female hormones do for me is allow the best part of me to shine through.

I'd like to assume the cure, for sake of argument, would spare other parts of my personality. The whole point is to have a congruent body, right?  What if I could be happy with the one that my DNA said I should have?  I feel comfortable enough with my own feminity that I don't have to assert the fact that female is who I am.  But who I am didn't jive with what I was and that's where the problem lay.  It was making me hate my body.  If there were a way to make me not hate, and in fact like what I already had, why not consider it?  It's a little late now but were such a thing available you bet I'd have done it.

Quote from: Sarah7 on May 08, 2011, 08:27:53 PM
Maybe... maybe if I could test drive it? Like try it for a week and then revert to make the final decision? Be able to see how much I'd really stop being me. How much is just me being paranoid.

It does feell like it, and I'm sure that this side is the less rational and more on the side of fear but whatchu gonna do?

Quote from: Maddie Secutura on May 08, 2011, 07:22:01 PMAm I the only who recognizes that the defect is my brain?

This is how I see it: yes something went wrong when my brain was developing, as I must indeed have been meant to become a girl(as the brain only starts developing later during pregnancy), but the brain in itself is not defect. As it is, I have a male brain that is perfectly fine other than the fact that it doesn't match my body.

The brain is still who I am even if I am the result of an accident of nature. If it was changed it would no longer be me, it equals lobotomy to me, and I'd rather die.

I hate how people try to mess with the heads of perfectly healthy people just because they don't conform to their idea of how things should work and behave. What I'm frightened of (if it was possible to begin with) is the possibility of such a thing becoming a standard procedure rather than a voluntary choice. What you'd have next is people digging in the heads of homosexuals etc. to "correct" these things as well. And don't say people will notice such a thing is going against human rights, the masses would just accept it as the scientifically accepted practice and draw a sigh of relief to be rid of us.

Quote from: espo on May 08, 2011, 04:06:57 PM
Do you think its possible for doctors to reassign gender like they reassign sex and if it WAS possible would you opt for that solution instead of the physical changes ....... if you had a choice.

Like all the previous posters said you've just killed me, I build my gender identity but it's not through complete choice I work with well, me, sounds weird doesn't it, but I make choices and sometimes I neglect who I am for the stupidiest of reasons.

So it's srs that corrects my transsexualism so I can have full expression.

This is really a significant question to ponder, one which rattled me very deeply not too long ago.

We are creatures with significant will. I also possess enough intelligence to realize that by the grace of this will I am quite capable of living forever as born simply by waking up and diving into work or some other deviation of my time in full force.

But I won't anymore - I don't really know if I can't, since I have done so and succeeded for over 20 years.

Still, here I am.

What does it all mean? I would never take a pill to alter my brain's gender, but here I am taking the most potent estrogen our bodies can handle, which I'm sure will have some effect on the sexually dimorphic matter patterns and sizes of certain parts of my brain over the next few decades. (It may not effect the identity region of my brain, but neuroplasticity does persist to some degree until you die.) What the heck am I doing? Is it really necessary?

These types of questions were just something existential to sit and turn over while living every moment of a life that I felt like checking out of. Now that I'm in the process I want to stay alive, and I still know that I would never take that other pill, even if it meant a life of internal hell.

Things are getting worse but I feel a lot better. I feel like I want to be alive, even if it's a struggle. I'm sure that I'm capable of love now as well, this process has taught me that much. I can't imagine there being any other right way to go about aligning one's self if they have this struggle.

Maybe at or before birth, to avoid all the grief, but once my brain was developed even the slightest , I would regard it as too late.