I have a question. Spiro is supposed to stop things like spontaneous erections and 'morning wood', right? It's been a real hell...

It doesn't stop it for everyone.  Some, even while on Spiro and an Estrogen, still maintain erection functionality.  I don't know how long you have been on Spiro, but if you are meant to have erections stopped it can sometimes take a while for those to completely go away but again, sometimes they don't for a lot of transgender women.

Quote from: dotdotdot on April 16, 2011, 05:13:54 PM
I have a question. Spiro is supposed to stop things like spontaneous erections and 'morning wood', right? It's been a real hell...

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  Welcome to the forum!
  Yes, it's been real heck for me during my adult portion of my 58 years.  That what you mentioned made me feel unclean.  I was on a half dosage of my HRT regimen at the start and the erections quelled after about 2 weeks.  Some on this forum are struggling with this problem after 1-2 years on HRT.  Ask your therapist or doctor.  I don't want to hear a ... --- ... from you!

Quote from: girl_ashley on April 16, 2011, 09:06:25 PM
It doesn't stop it for everyone.  Some, even while on Spiro and an Estrogen, still maintain erection functionality.  I don't know how long you have been on Spiro, but if you are meant to have erections stopped it can sometimes take a while for those to completely go away but again, sometimes they don't for a lot of transgender women.

This +1. Everyone is different. They haven't magically stopped much for me.

After about 3-4 weeks, spontaneous erections (morning erections) stopped for me but the ability to get erections from sexual stimulation never went away.  But as other poster's mentioned, everyone is different!
-Julie

With me it's the same...I can get erections if stimulated and most of the time I do not get "morning wood". My sex drive has not diminished as much as some of the others I hear have. But I think it just really depends on you more than anything else.

I've been on hormones for like 2 weeks now and i hardly get spontaneous erections. And when I get the spontaneous ones , they are really limp and last for less than a minute. As with the wanted erections they are very limp as well, during this second week of being on hormones I don't think I got one full erection. 

Hi Dot, Welcome to the forums.

I still wake up with it or can induce it if I want to but it is never as strong as before hrt and takes a bit of will power to maintain-it's so much easier just to dismiss thoughts about it and it goes away.

Randi

It went away for me in a couple of weeks. I just about forgot it used to do that!

If I don't specifically decide it needs to work, it dosent say a word. Just sits there all quiet wondering how he got forgotten so fast. (I still have a plan for him but he won't like it.... Hint: It involves a flight to Thailand.....)

-M

Quote from: melissa42013 on April 19, 2011, 07:32:00 PM
(I still have a plan for him but he won't like it.... Hint: It involves a flight to Thailand.....)
-M

Kind of like telling your dog; "You want to go for a ride? Huh, boy? Huh?" as you put him in the car to take to the vets to have him fixed.

I can see you now looking down your pants and saying; "We're going on a plane!  Won't you like that?!  We're going to an exotic land!  We're going to see all kinds of things!"

Sorry, kind of a silly morning...

-Sandy

Here's the thing: I'm currently only taking  spiro while I don't have the money for anything else. (I've been on it for 9 months or so. Yes, everything is normal). I have also started having almost-wet dreams in the last month or two that thankfully don't do anything and I can wake up from. This is the kicker: I have never had them before in my life until march/april. I hate it. I guess like pretty much all medicines they lose their effectiveness?

Quote from: dotdotdot on May 06, 2011, 10:00:16 AM
Here's the thing: I'm currently only taking  spiro while I don't have the money for anything else. (I've been on it for 9 months or so. Yes, everything is normal). I have also started having almost-wet dreams in the last month or two that thankfully don't do anything and I can wake up from. This is the kicker: I have never had them before in my life until march/april. I hate it. I guess like pretty much all medicines they lose their effectiveness?

Spironolactone is not a medication that your body builds a tolerance to like morphine.  It suppresses the production of testosterone, making it almost immeasurable.  It is effective at prescribed dosages for as long as you remain on it.  Additionally, it's effects are permanent in that it can cause chemical castration if used longer than eight months or so.  So even if you stop taking it after the effects have become permanent you will no longer be able to produce sperm or testosterone, though you may have some residual testosterone produced by your adrenals.

The libido is usually reduced with a decrease of testosterone, but that may involve a number of other factors as well.  Some people report a complete loss of libido, others report virtually no changes.

The mind is a funny thing and dreams can be triggered by any number of things.  Nocturnal emission is a physiological process that may result in erotic dreams, but erotic dreams don't cause nocturnal emissions.

I don't have any real suggestions as to what may be causing your unwanted dreams, nor any way to change them.  If you are seeing a therapist, you may want to discuss this with them.

-Sandy

  Spiro is used as a safer duretic by people with a water weight problem and older men with enlarged prostates.  Using Spiro alone may not be enough.  See your doctor.  You may still be getting spikes of testosterone.  Intermittent use of the other HRT components with Spiro is not advised.
  Joelene

I thought I would just mention what has happened to me since cutting back (since 20 February) and stopping ( 3 weeks ago) of xx mg a day to show what Spiro can do and what you may not notice once you start taking it.
I was self medicating for 4 years and my Doctor asked me to stop to see how it made me feel.

The morning wood has returned
I am a lot more tired
I am less calm and quite irritable and can be very moody at times
Facial hair and body hair is starting to grow faster
Nipples have stopped budding
Appetite decreased

When I first took Spiro, I felt my erections affected within the first day but, I have always had problems maintaining one anyway so maybe that is why. Within 3 weeks it felt like I had D cup's and I also noticed that I was a lot more calmer.

Oh and another thing was I noticed that I got incredibly horny at the drop of hat and that the area where my vagina would / should be was an incredible horny itch, that if I rubbed it I could actually orgasm - sometimes multiples and some of the most intense ones that I had ever had. 

It of course varies person to person. I'll be seeing my Doctor next week, so I will be asking / demanding to go back on.

Quote from: Beni76 on May 10, 2011, 08:19:00 AM
Oh and another thing was I noticed that I got incredibly horny at the drop of hat and that the area where my vagina would / should be was an incredible horny itch, that if I rubbed it I could actually orgasm - sometimes multiples and some of the most intense ones that I had ever had. 

Ugh, something like this started happening recently, though I didn't have any associated dose decreases. It is very annoying and distressing, as there only seems to be one way to stop it temporarily, and Its not exactly something I want. How can I deal with this hypersexuality?

Well I'm still not back on Spiro or any T - blockers as yet.
My Doctor said that he would have to check with the Psychiatrist to see if it would interfere with any of his treatment of me but, did say that it would be Androcur and not Spiro that would be used. He said that he doesn't prescribe Spiro at all.
He also said that he would have to prescribe it as 'To reduce sex drive' for the PBS .

So I guess I have to put up with another couple of weeks of Morning wood, Moodiness and the urge to masturbate more frequently.

Re : dotdotdot  - As for Hyper sexuality, I am guessing that Androcur would be better to treat this as it is purely an Anti - Androgen rather then Spiro which is a diuretic with anti - androgen qualities but higher doses are required for a similar effect. I am no Doctor so it is better to see an actual one for safe and professional knowledge .

The quote about the horniness was when I was actually taking the Spiro, not when I was decreasing / reducing doses, just to clarify that. I don't get that anymore now that I have stopped taking Spiro.
Also I found that the head of my penis was very sensitive whilst taking Spiro and any attempt at intercourse I found it tickled a lot at the start of penetration and that it was very easy to orgasm, that is of course if it was able to stay erect lol

I think androcur isn't approved in the US, so there is no way I can get a prescription of it... (I am assuming from google that you are in Australia?) I guess I could try stopping the spiro and see which one is more bearable. It is strange how it suddenly started like it did. It would probably be for the better as the spiro wasn't actually working all that well in the first place, and it doesn't sound like it would be any different anyways.

Yes, I'm in Australia. I didn't realize Androcur wasn't approved in the US, shows why so many US girls take Spiro then.
Is there only one brand in US ? of Spiro and do you have Generic or non Generic brands? I'm not sure if changing to a different brand would help?

There is only one brand, but many many generics available here.

Quote from: Sandy on May 06, 2011, 12:35:22 PM
Spironolactone is not a medication that your body builds a tolerance to like morphine.  It suppresses the production of testosterone, making it almost immeasurable.  It is effective at prescribed dosages for as long as you remain on it.  Additionally, it's effects are permanent in that it can cause chemical castration if used longer than eight months or so. So even if you stop taking it after the effects have become permanent you will no longer be able to produce sperm or testosterone, though you may have some residual testosterone produced by your adrenals.

Hmmm. That's about twice as long as i can go on my current arrangement (at full dosage)

Lord please grant me another 4-6 months of this stuff!