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Started by jillian, June 30, 2011, 06:25:43 PM

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jillian

So Ive come out to some friends and tomorrow Im coming out to some family (terri f'ing fied) 

My very good friend whom Ive know for quite a while still goes back and forth.

He accepts me and loves me like only a best friend could, but he seems to think that I could be making a mistake.
He keeps checking to make sure I am sure. He suggested I go out cross dressed. However he doesnt realize that I am slowly implementing more feminine attributes into my daily appearance as well as routine.  I am working hard to lose weight so I can feel better in tight clothing, but Im not ready to go out completely dressed. 

I try to tell him that I am not a drag queen and they are two completely different things. Mind you, he is one of those people who know everything, just not in an annoying way lol.

Well ladies, and gents, what do you think. Could my heart and mind be steering me wrong, does he have a point?
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azSam

Well you only said, "He keeps checking to make sure I am sure." - He doesn't seem to be stating any opposition according to that. Seems like he just may want to prevent you from making a life altering and irreversible set of mistakes.

And really, only YOU can know how YOU truly feel. Only you can decide if this is really the action that will make you truly happy in life. If you feel that this is not only a desired change but also required change, then you should march ahead confidently.

These life changes are exactly that, LIFE CHANGES. They knock you out of your comfort zone, out of your complacent life style. It's natural to second guess yourself to some degree because there is always the possibility for things to go horribly wrong in the process. Losing your family and/or your job, not being able to afford proper care and seeing your progress halted, the possibility of not passing and living your life in an undesirable way; these are just a few things that can be on your mind which can startle you and make you think if it's worth it.

Once you weigh in all of the benefits and all of the possible things that can go wrong, if you find that this is still something you want and need to do, then you should march forward and never look back.
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jillian

Thanks Sammantha. He is not against it, he is just being a friend.  I think at times a little funny, but still a friend.

I am moving forward, scared as hell, I am excited but also fearful, and also full of guilt for what I have done to my wife. I love her, and I know she is losing the man of her dreams, but I would never leave her behind.

Regular people just dont realize the challenges we face, physically, emotionall, and financially. Knowing all the implications that come with this life change and still desiring to do it, should be enough to convince anybody that you must either be 100 percent sure, or a delusional schizophrenic...I am sure. :-) 

Thanks for being so kind and bubbly, yet very understanding and informative
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Diane Elizabeth

jillian, that is great news about you and your best friend.  Not everyone has one, let alone one that is concerned about your welfare. 
Having you blanket in the wash is like finding your psychiatrist is gone for the weekend!         Linus "Peanuts"
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Susan Kay

Quote from: jillian on June 30, 2011, 07:33:35 PM
Regular people just dont realize the challenges we face, physically, emotionall, and financially.

I am not sure most of us realize that, though we certainly learn them soon enough. You apparently have a friend that is being a good sounding board for you, and is remaining a friend - very, very important, and to be cherished. I have one that has been a friend nearly all our lives and so far has not let this run him off, but I can tell it challenges him at times. Nearly everyone else flew, flew away, so obviously were not real friends. Work hard to keep the ones that stand by you.

Susan Kay
Remember, people are very open-minded about new things --- so long as they are exactly like the old ones.

- Paul de Kruif
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Whitney

For me the most important thing I did before I came out to my family was to prepare my situation. Rehearse what you're going to say. Rehearse and refine, over and over. It doesn't matter if you think it sounds cheesy, silly, bad, or what have you, because it's not what will come out. I prepared my speech for several weeks, and when my expected opportunity flew by because I hadn't accounted for the unaccountable I was unable to spring my routine as intended. This lead to improvising an opportunity out of thin air, on the fly, with all sorts of family time whirling around me. My hand was forced and I had to make a few less-than-ideal move involving hotel rooms and telephones; that sounds a lot worse than it really was.

What I took away from my experience was when the words do need to flow, they will gum up and fight against you as best they can. The first sentence was the hardest, but after that it was like playing hop scotch in the yard with what I rehearsed out in front. Perhaps it couldn't flow exactly as I had intended, and perhaps there was a bit of rambling or ranting in there, as you can tell I often do, but the message was clear. The other thing learned was everyone will react differently. My younger brother, of the 4chan generation, simply stated, drunk off his ass for the first time in his life, "Well that makes sense." My father was solemn and asked a lot of logistical questions, something I had sort of anticipated. My mother was my wildcard. There were two possibilities, a good and a less good, but not bad. Obviously the less good option was the winner. All I can advise for a less than ideal reaction is to give someone space. Everyone copes with this sort of thing differently. For my mother it was 6 glasses of Champagne and 14 shots of good tequila; she's not an alcoholic. Eventually she came around and now showers me with cast offs of lotion and makeup and other things I can't exactly afford just this second in my life.

In the end it's your decision, as everyone else will say, to open up to your family. Though I do feel, even if it turns out poorly, trusting your family, and having the guts to spill yourself out in this way, is the only way to truly feel some sort of satisfaction with yourself. Having to tread softly through life around certain people is just short of total misery. Being free feels so much better, even when some people don't totally agree with how you wish to live your life.
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Cindy

Hi Jillian

I have this from a few friends as well. But mine are female friends. Two in particular were very concerned that I might lose 'respect in my job', did I really want lose 'male privilege'. One was concerned that when I went to her dinner parties some of her friends would be
transphobic to me.
I sort of had to laugh really. Yes they were being concerned and loving but totally naive. After long talks about that I'm not a ->-bleeped-<-, I'm a woman with a birth defect, and carefully explaining the difference. They are coming around.
The strangest comment I got from one, who is a very intelligent woman, was when I was explaining about problems that FtMs have.  Why would anyone want to give up being a woman? Was her response. I understand why you want (sic) to be one.

Oh well

Cindy, hope the family stuff goes well
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Muffins

I used to get questions like this and I think it comes down to the fact you've know about how you feel for soooooo many years and it's all new to them so they kind of think it's new to you as well.. they need that reassurance that you've thought long and hard about this and that you would of never told them if you were not 200% sure about this. I mean it's big and it's not the kind of thing you'd tell someone and then a week later say "hey I'm not going to transition any more I'm going to buy a jet-ski and change my job to being a picture framer instead".
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Cindy

Good comment Muffin.  We know for ever, they know in a phone call or equivalent
Cindy
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Kim 526

I don't get it...did your friend recommend you at least go out dressed before you come out to people?

I didn't know for sure until I went out a few hundred times, and even then I couldn't admit I was transsexual until 3 years after I started going out. I called myself "just a crossdresser." I took it slow and made sure I was comfortable with looking and acting female before I told a soul.

Is there a TG club anywhere near you where you could go & dress up for the meeting nights? Usually such organizations are quite helpful - and not at all judgmental - in all aspects of clothing, makeup, deportment, etc. And the support is invaluable.

Take care, Kim
"Peace came upon me and it leaves me weak,
So sleep, silent angel, go to sleep."
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Muffins

Quote from: Kim 526 on July 01, 2011, 02:57:18 PM
I don't get it...did your friend recommend you at least go out dressed before you come out to people?

I didn't know for sure until I went out a few hundred times, and even then I couldn't admit I was transsexual until 3 years after I started going out. I called myself "just a crossdresser." I took it slow and made sure I was comfortable with looking and acting female before I told a soul.

Is there a TG club anywhere near you where you could go & dress up for the meeting nights? Usually such organizations are quite helpful - and not at all judgmental - in all aspects of clothing, makeup, deportment, etc. And the support is invaluable.

Take care, Kim

I used to do stuff like that. It was also the last time I went out in high heels and a dress! Gosh I looked ridiculous lols! But still a learning experience.. xP
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Cindy

I don't want to inflame anything. But I have never considered myself a cross-dresser. I have no problems with people who are BTW. For me wearing 'female' clothes was just accepting me.
And yes Muffin I remember going out in 4 inch heels and a mini and being regarded as a rather ugly hooker :laugh: :laugh:.

So I accepted myself before I ever went out in public. I was nervous the first few times but quite quickly found my 'feet' as it were. I'm also not bothered if I give myself away, or someone looks oddly at me.

I'm me and I'm pretty happy with that at the moment

Cindy
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BillieTex

Quote from: jillian on June 30, 2011, 06:25:43 PM
My very good friend whom Ive know for quite a while still goes back and forth.

He accepts me and loves me like only a best friend could, but he seems to think that I could be making a mistake.
He keeps checking to make sure I am sure.

A friend like that is very hard to come by, my oldest friend i have known since the 7th grade is very religious and a bit right winged. I can only imagine what he would/will some day say. :'(
Be true to yourself, even if no one else will...
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Sabriel Facrin

I feel crossdressing is for those who want to feel they emit a presence, while those who transition are the ones who want to absorb the presence...if that makes sense.  ---Different ways of validly dealing with your feelings, but although my opinion is quite uneducated, so saying that in the first place may well be a total botch.

Either way, I still imagine it would much easier to crossdress THEN transition than the other way around. =P
It'd be good for practice anyway, just do it safely, k?
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Muffins

Can also be seen as a try before you buy, which may of been the point in the context of this thread? *shrugs*.
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