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Dont be fooled by surgeons fees

Started by jamie nicole, July 03, 2011, 11:06:20 PM

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jamie nicole

just wanted to post a precautionary advisory.....the fees that a surgeon charges are not necessarily a reflection of the quality of work or the outcome.  For example: some United States/Canada surgeons fees can run as high as $23K, alot of which is allocated for the hospital (OR, post-op, anesthesia, etc).  Surgeons fees for overseas physicians may run anywhere from $7500-$15000 due to lower hospital fees, anesthesia, post op etc.
If you're paying $23K for surgery, it doesnt mean you're getting the creme dela creme of the surgeons and likewise if you pay $7500 overseas it doesnt mean you're gonna be butchered.  However, I would be skeptical of any fees lower than $7000-$7500.
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azSam

Were you recently on srsmentor.com as well?

I'm thinking that I will probably go overseas, regardless of saving money. Thailand is pretty amazing, and their standards of post-operative care are pretty high.
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jamie nicole

Quote from: Samantharz on July 03, 2011, 11:19:07 PM
Were you recently on srsmentor.com as well?

I'm thinking that I will probably go overseas, regardless of saving money. Thailand is pretty amazing, and their standards of post-operative care are pretty high.

No, I just did some comparisons. When I had my breast aug, I was charged $1050 for 2 hours of OR time, and $200 for every hour thereafter, $800 for anesthesia.  When I had to spend one night in the hospital (regular room) my insurance was billed almost $9K and I had a copay of nearly $1500 (of which I stiffed em on haha).
I was told by my surgeons (dr saran) asst that I could opt to have all my pre op testing done at Piyavate for $150.....In the US, just the xray and radiologist fees will cost that much!  So, I'm fully aware that in the United States there isnt really a healthcare crises, there's a healthcare cost crisis!
I will check out that website tho!
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Tammy Hope

wait, STOP!

$7,500??!?!!?!

For realsies?!!?

I'd been under the impression that twice that was about the floor for reliable work...

Disclaimer: due to serious injury, most of my posts are made via Dragon Dictation which sometimes butchers grammar and mis-hears my words. I'm also too lazy to closely proof-read which means some of my comments will seem strange.


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Tammy Hope

Quote from: Samantharz on July 03, 2011, 11:19:07 PM
Were you recently on srsmentor.com as well?

ooooooooooo.....

Tasty reading material! Yum! thank you.
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jamie nicole

Quote from: Tammy Hope on July 03, 2011, 11:34:50 PM
wait, STOP!

$7,500??!?!!?!

For realsies?!!?

I'd been under the impression that twice that was about the floor for reliable work...

there are many qualified surgeons in Thailand....here are some names to google and research
Dr. Saran
Dr. Preecha and PAI
Yanhee Hospital
Dr. Chettawut
Dr. Suporn
just a few  :)
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Keaira

$7500?!

That's 2 tax returns worth for me. Wow!
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AbraCadabra

Ok, my info on BA:
US$ 3600 with Dr. Sanguan Kunaporn at PIH (Phuket), BTW US$11k for 14 days hospital and two stage op.
In SA breast-augmentation cost exactly the same in Rand 25'000 = US$3600.
To pay US$ 7'500 sound just completely spaced out to me!

That your medical pays for it, without this being some essential breast-cancer aftercare, is also note worthy.

In SA you have to pay for ALL cosmetic surgery out of your own pocket and I'm sure the same in Europe (UK, Germany, etc.) in general.
Now go figure...
Greeting from the wild South :-)
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jamie nicole

Quote from: Axelle on July 04, 2011, 12:14:57 AM
Ok, my info on BA:
US$ 3600 with Dr. Sanguan Kunaporn at PIH (Phuket), BTW US$11k for 14 days hospital and two stage op.
In SA breast-augmentation cost exactly the same in Rand 25'000 = US$3600.
To pay US$ 7'500 sound just completely spaced out to me!

That your medical pays for it, without this being some essential breast-cancer aftercare, is also note worthy.

In SA you have to pay for ALL cosmetic surgery out of your own pocket and I'm sure the same in Europe (UK, Germany, etc.) in general.
Now go figure...
Greeting from the wild South :-)

just do the research! in particular, look at www.yanhee.net
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justmeinoz

I haven't looked at the cost of a BA here in Australia, but my Health Insurance specifically states they don't cover any cosmetic surgery.  Might as well get a hair transplant at the same time then if I am out of pocket.

Karen.
"Don't ask me, it was on fire when I lay down on it"
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AbraCadabra

Jamie
yeah, done quite a bit of just that, research.
Erm, US$ 7k sounds a bit doggy to me? Just in MHO.
As always there's the: you get what pay... thing in one's mind?

Checking with Chettawut, Suporn, et al and I liked to go the middle road with Kunaporn at PIH. Have a re-schedule booking pending. (Was meant to be on his table 15th June... but ->-bleeped-<-e happened)

Axelle
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Julie Marie

My GRS was $14K but I saved $4K with the monetary exchange.  BA, with cohesive gel implants (about $2K more than saline) was $6,500.  FFS was a bit under $19K.  The first two were in Canada, FFS in the US.

I'm happy with the BA.  Not happy with the GRS.  And happy with the FFS.  All were done in '08 & '09.
When you judge others, you do not define them, you define yourself.
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Tammy Hope

Quote from: Julie Marie on July 04, 2011, 05:59:27 AM
My GRS was $14K but I saved $4K with the monetary exchange.  BA, with cohesive gel implants (about $2K more than saline) was $6,500.  FFS was a bit under $19K.  The first two were in Canada, FFS in the US.

I'm happy with the BA.  Not happy with the GRS.  And happy with the FFS.  All were done in '08 & '09.


Would you say your "not happy" was specific to your situation, or would you say "don't use the surgeon i did"?
Disclaimer: due to serious injury, most of my posts are made via Dragon Dictation which sometimes butchers grammar and mis-hears my words. I'm also too lazy to closely proof-read which means some of my comments will seem strange.


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Julie Marie

Quote from: Tammy Hope on July 04, 2011, 04:17:26 PM
Would you say your "not happy" was specific to your situation, or would you say "don't use the surgeon i did"?

Besides myself, I know three other girls personally who went to Brassard.  One had to go back a year later for an "adjustment".  No surgeon fees but she did have to pay for hospital, staff and traveling.  She said it took her three years to start feeling normal down there.

The second is unhappy because of numbness and hairs in her V.  She's three years post-op.  She can have the occasional "O" but everything has to be just right.

The third never talks about her experience.  I think she's about five years post op.

As for me, my dissatisfaction began when I saw the hack stitch job.  I'm used to seeing the skin sewn together so you can't see the lower epidermal layers.  What I saw was gaping wounds.  I was equally unimpressed with the stitch job he left from BA.  That was easily 1/4" wide.  He's a plastic surgeon.  He should know how to do sutures well. 

I'm two years post op and I still have pain when pressure is applied down there.  There is still a lot of numbness that doesn't seem to be going away.  No big O yet and I'm thinking that will never happen.  But it's the look that bothers me the most.  Very unnatural.

I know members here who are very happy.  It seems it's hit or miss with him.  He does his surgeries with lightning speed.  Maybe that's why the results are inconsistent.
When you judge others, you do not define them, you define yourself.
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jamie nicole

Quote from: Julie Marie on July 05, 2011, 06:04:50 AM
Besides myself, I know three other girls personally who went to Brassard.  One had to go back a year later for an "adjustment".  No surgeon fees but she did have to pay for hospital, staff and traveling.  She said it took her three years to start feeling normal down there.

The second is unhappy because of numbness and hairs in her V.  She's three years post-op.  She can have the occasional "O" but everything has to be just right.

The third never talks about her experience.  I think she's about five years post op.

As for me, my dissatisfaction began when I saw the hack stitch job.  I'm used to seeing the skin sewn together so you can't see the lower epidermal layers.  What I saw was gaping wounds.  I was equally unimpressed with the stitch job he left from BA.  That was easily 1/4" wide.  He's a plastic surgeon.  He should know how to do sutures well. 

I'm two years post op and I still have pain when pressure is applied down there.  There is still a lot of numbness that doesn't seem to be going away.  No big O yet and I'm thinking that will never happen.  But it's the look that bothers me the most.  Very unnatural.

I know members here who are very happy.  It seems it's hit or miss with him.  He does his surgeries with lightning speed.  Maybe that's why the results are inconsistent.


If you had the chance to do it again knowing what you now know, would you stay with the guys in Montreal.....or would you use a US or Thai surgeon?
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Julie Marie

Quote from: Jamie Nicole on July 05, 2011, 02:19:26 PM
If you had the chance to do it again knowing what you now know, would you stay with the guys in Montreal.....or would you use a US or Thai surgeon?

This is not something you can know.  I've heard good and bad from pretty much every GRS surgeon out there.  It seems they all do great work and they all do bad work.  Anyway, there is no second chance with this surgery.  So it serves no purpose answering hypothetical questions.  When it's your time, you gotta go with whoever you pick and live with whatever you get.
When you judge others, you do not define them, you define yourself.
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Dora

Along with srsmentor.com another option to check out is Satori World Medical
(www.satoriworldmedical.com/transgender/index.htm) who I have signed up with for my SRS.  At the time I did not know about srsmentor.com.  However, I am happy with SWM so far.  All the details taken care of and less then if I had done it myself. -Dora
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lilacwoman

Anaesthetists now feel sufficiently important that they want a big chunk of money to sit through operations monitoring the patient is one reason for high fees
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joannatsf

Someone said 14 days in hospital for SRS???  That's amazing.  I was only in 6 days for a liver transplant!
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lilacwoman

I had surgery Saturday and home by train on following Sunday - complete with catheter and bag.. LOL
Surgeons do have their own ideas and probly good to follow their advice.
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