i take no credit. a friend sent me this and this guy is a freaking genius. it's so stupidly simple i don't think most people even think to try.

skip ahead to 1:30 for the main idea

Seems like a good way to end up pissing all over yourself.  Let me know if it works well.

thats what i thought at first but ive done it about 10 times barely pulling my pants down at all and never had an accident once. who knew it was so easy to stp all this time!?!?!?

I've seen this once before and it seems pretty awesome but it makes me nervous the same reason STP's do. The worry of what if it goes wrong at work? Might be worth a shot if I hear a few more people say it's worked well for them though. RyGuy was it really as simple as he makes it seem?

Deviceless, I always had to use at least one hand. Takes a loooot of practice, ha. I could never get the hang of it with pants on, or without bending back like a pregnant person impersonating Tinman.

Some people are very lucky, hahaa.

yep i sent it directly to two of my trans friends and my brother (we're both ftm go figure) and they all tried it with clothes on and it really is that simple. don't bother with any of that "fingers in a v and spread" business that just sounds inappropriate and disgusting. seriously THE ONLY THING you have to do is drop your pants a couple inches, put your hand on the wall so that your pelvic area is somewhat above the toilet, and piss normally.

yea i remember when i first found this guy. i actually talked to him bc he lived near me at the time
i do this all the time in the stalls on campus and in other public places since i cant afford a packer/stp (id like to use urinals eventually)
im so broke cant even get the 25 i need haha
but yea bro when i found that vid i was like "->-bleeped-<- yeaa"

Quote from: lyrikal on July 17, 2011, 11:04:51 PM
yea i remember when i first found this guy. i actually talked to him bc he lived near me at the time
i do this all the time in the stalls on campus and in other public places since i cant afford a packer/stp (id like to use urinals eventually)
im so broke cant even get the 25 i need haha
but yea bro when i found that vid i was like "<not allowed> yeaa"

Go figure! Cade and I are actually friends from school! He's a phenomenal go-to for pointers and advice. Great guy. We don't get to hang as much since I moved though

small world! thats crazy haha where you move to

Chicago. Lincoln Park. Not terribly far, but between both our work and school schedules it doesn't leave as much free time for frequent commuting.

Okay, I just tried to this and it failed.  Some of it ran down my leg, which was gross.

the other problem I have with this even if it had worked, since my pelvic basically has to be directly above the toilet, that means my pants which are pulled down some are going to be touching/pressing against the toilet bowl outside.  Now some public restrooms are icky and I don't want my clothes touching the outside of the toilet, which sometimes has dried urine on it.   

I'd rather use a STP device and stand back.  that way nothing splashes on me too.  and my pants won't touch.

I know I'm a germphob.  but I thought I'd post this for anyone else who doesn't like pee on them.

I tried this last night... used the men's room for the first time (!!), and rather than sit I thought I'd give this a go. First time worked like a dream, though I had to keep my chinos down pretty low. Second time I... uh... got a bit messy. My trousers were spared, but it did end up with my leg hugging the toilet bowl in a desperate attempt to salvage the situation.

Think I'll save for an STP

Solo, you could try something like this for now.  It works surprisingly well.
Kage's ftm stp tutorial for under $5

I just tried this and it worked!  The peace sign finger method works better for urinals. I couldn't do the peace sign method and use a normal toilet b/c it's hard to aim down. But using no hand and leaning like that works awesome. Just make sure you use some force, and when you're nearing the end, give it a push so it doesn't trickle down your leg or something.

I've only ever tried this in my own house while I wasn't wearing any pants and it was easier than I thought it would be. Maybe I'll try it with pants next time.

Tried this and it ran down my leg. Maybe I'm doing it wrong or something. Is it true that not every guy is able to do stuff like this because of their anatomy?

Quote from: Darrin on July 20, 2011, 03:53:33 PM
Tried this and it ran down my leg. Maybe I'm doing it wrong or something. Is it true that not every guy is able to do stuff like this because of their anatomy?

Happened to me a bit too.  I find that if I use the whole 2 finger method that I have better aim.  But that's not something I'm comfortable doing every time I piss.  Besides, I have to drop my pants to the floor to get this accomplished successfully.

I do think that anatomy plays a part being able to stp (with or without devices).  Pre-T I had an easier time of it.  Now, my junk kind of..diverts urine off to the side or something.  Not sure how to explain it without being graphic.  But yeah, anatomy definitely affects my ability to do this.  I'm sure the same is true for other guys.

Quote from: Darrin on July 20, 2011, 03:53:33 PM
Tried this and it ran down my leg. Maybe I'm doing it wrong or something. Is it true that not every guy is able to do stuff like this because of their anatomy?

i have reason to believe, without getting graphic, that my urethra is particularly well-positioned for peeing standing up. it may not work for everybody, but i wasn't aware that there was a lot of.. difference of structure.. in biological female genitals.

I just tried it, and yeah it must depend on your anatomy.  I'll stick to my stp, but I'm glad it works for some of you guys.