Quote from: Naturally Blonde on July 21, 2011, 05:06:13 AM
I don't understand the question? why would someone want to have or keep beard shadow? and then try and hide it? why not get rid of it instead! several sessions of laser should help!

I started monthly laser sessions last August, so I'm about half-way through my treatment and I still need makeup very much to hide the beard shadow. I have dark hair and pale skin, and before I started laser I could grow a full beard in six weeks.

I have began using the Dinair system with the Paramedical foundation as a hide.  And it works very well.  At least for me. I still have a few dark ones on the upper lip and this system hides them.

I add a couple of drops to the base color (natural beige in my case).   And make only a couple of passes over the area and it vanishes..  Then I do the whole face with the glamour foundation with out the red.

Check out their site @ Dinair.  This system works, but there is a learning curve involved.  Less is more.

Lemme toss this one in thar,

Hiding beard shadow when it's 105 heat index??

Quote from: Cyndigurl45 on July 22, 2011, 07:08:37 AM
Lemme toss this one in thar,

Hiding beard shadow when it's 105 heat index??

Wear a biiiig floppy straw hat, then it's all shadow .

Love it when you girls cry heat

105F is warm not hot. 45 - 50 C for weeks is hot

Cindy

Quote from: Valeriedances on July 21, 2011, 07:10:21 AM
Hi Naturally Blonde, welcome back btw.

Unfortunately, laser doesnt work with blondes/redheads which only leaves electrolysis (its not fair!). If it takes say 200-300 hours to clear a beard @$60/hr or so, thats 12k-18k. And if your transitioned already, how do we manage the healing period after each session... and the scheduling, the everyday need for makeup anyway. Its a nightmare problem. For me at my age, I decided to live with it. Doing something that takes 10 minutes each morning or spend that amount of money, pain, etc. Its a problem for the Arrrgggh forum.

Even so, I will likely try to do some full clearance sessions in the future at 3k-5k a pop. sheesh, thats irritating.

Thanks for the wb Valerie! I have also got fair hair and find the laser works quite well me generally! But the last time I had laser I went a different place and it wasn't as good as my usual one, so I will in future go back to my old laser clinic. I suppose it depends on how much facial hair people suffer with in the first place?

Quote from: Cyndigurl45 on July 22, 2011, 07:08:37 AM
Lemme toss this one in thar,

Hiding beard shadow when it's 105 heat index??

105? We're suffering from the rain and mid 70's here. We don't tan, we rust.

Quote from: Hannah_Irene on July 22, 2011, 09:04:10 AM
105? We're suffering from the rain and mid 70's here. We don't tan, we rust.

You need to cut back on the iron supplements, deario .

It's not so much the heat as the humidity, a heavier foundation and sweat just don't mix well, what's a girl todo?

Dinair has a "No Sweat" that you can use under the foundation.  So far so go.  And my upper lip sweats badly.

Quote from: Cindy James on July 22, 2011, 07:20:49 AM
Love it when you girls cry heat

105F is warm not hot. 45 - 50 C for weeks is hot

Cindy

105 heat index is 49C at 0% humidity. 105F at 0% humidity is only a 95 heat index. For science!

Quote from: Valeriedances on July 21, 2011, 07:10:21 AM
Hi Naturally Blonde, welcome back btw.

Unfortunately, laser doesnt work with blondes/redheads which only leaves electrolysis (its not fair!). If it takes say 200-300 hours to clear a beard @$60/hr or so, thats 12k-18k. And if your transitioned already, how do we manage the healing period after each session... and the scheduling, the everyday need for makeup anyway. Its a nightmare problem. For me at my age, I decided to live with it. Doing something that takes 10 minutes each morning or spend that amount of money, pain, etc. Its a problem for the Arrrgggh forum.

Even so, I will likely try to do some full clearance sessions in the future at 3k-5k a pop. sheesh, thats irritating.

The laser I'm getting is a "DSL" laser...I was told it's the newest type of laser, something fancy but I'm not a techy to remember all the hoo-hah the lady said...

Basically she said this new kind of laser can do all hair types, all skin types. I have had several patches of white whiskers, and after 3 sessions (3 more to go, too) I don't have any white ones, and no "5 o'clock shadow." Very smooth! (Olive skin, dark hair)

Quote from: Beth Andrea on August 06, 2011, 11:29:40 PM
The laser I'm getting is a "DSL" laser...I was told it's the newest type of laser, something fancy but I'm not a techy to remember all the hoo-hah the lady said...

Basically she said this new kind of laser can do all hair types, all skin types. I have had several patches of white whiskers, and after 3 sessions (3 more to go, too) I don't have any white ones, and no "5 o'clock shadow." Very smooth! (Olive skin, dark hair)

Has anyone else heard of 'DSL' Laser?

Having just read a bit about it it talks of RF radio waves. Maybe Maddie S or someone else with an engineering or sciencey background could evaluate this for us.

QuoteFrom their website:

At Aura Laser Skin Care we use the ELOS technology for our laser hair removal treatments. ELOS stands for elctro-optical-synergy, and refers to the process of combining radio frequency with laser and light energies to enhance treatment efficacy and safety. Furthermore, our laser is color blind, meaning aside from black hair, it is capable of removing blond, red, and gray hairs on all skin tones.

On the webpage, it says it's "ELOS", but FTF they say it's "DSL". Ok techies, have at it...

Quote from: Cyndigurl45 on July 22, 2011, 10:43:00 AM
It's not so much the heat as the humidity, a heavier foundation and sweat just don't mix well, what's a girl todo?

i actually found that dermablend holds up very well to heat as long as you powder your nose every few hours.

Quote from: caitlin_adams on August 07, 2011, 12:45:21 AM
Has anyone else heard of 'DSL' Laser?

Having just read a bit about it it talks of RF radio waves. Maybe Maddie S or someone else with an engineering or sciencey background could evaluate this for us.

I haven't heard of it before, but a 5min Bing search says it (or at least the model I saw talked about) uses both visible light and radio. Of course the traditional lasers use visible light, and dark objects absorb that much more than light objects. For radio though whether something looks light or dark in visible doesn't matter. I guess they managed to find the right radio frequency and control to allow some of the heat transfer to come from radio, increasing absorption and thus effectiveness.

There's probably more to it than that, but I don't feel like taking the time to read up on it. If you are just looking to know if the concept makes sense, this engineer thinks so.