Thanks everybody for this great dialogue. Luc, you're an unusual and courageous man to take a hard look at your own behavior; it's so hard for any of us to do this. For example, my need to reassurance and love from my partner causes me to pursue him, and he feels attacked and withdraws, which makes me pursue even more, etc. In other words, we both play our roles. But they are NEW roles, for us, having been together 13 years. Personally, I think the T is changing not just my partner's body (which is fab in my view), but also how one does or does not communicate. It's like we have to learn all over again how to connect--but the tricky part is that I am not sure my partner 'sees' that, so it can be rather crazy-making. And I don't see much out there in terms of resources to help people figure this out (hats off to Chaz Bono for letting a documentary crew follow him around!). I am trying to stay reasonably emotionally level in the face of all this, and appreciate everyone's input, including Squirell698's bill or rights. But I am not always doing such a hot job, since it's hard to be reaching out for connection only to be rejected. He wants me to hang in there, and is scared I won't be able to take it much more, but he also seems unable to do what once seemed to come naturally to him--all the little intimacies (physical and emotional) that make the glue of a relationship happen. It's a little scary to learn that this can happen three years in to T, but I am not surprised. thanks, Helios