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Ablow Uses "Farm Animals" Analogy To Attack Chaz Bono

Started by Shana A, September 13, 2011, 09:08:54 AM

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Shana A

Ablow Uses "Farm Animals" Analogy To Attack Chaz Bono

September 12, 2011 5:08 pm ET by Eric Hananoki

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201109120022

Fox News contributor Keith Ablow recently appeared on Howard Stern's program to defend his criticism about the participation of Chaz Bono -- who is transgender -- on ABC's Dancing With The Stars. Ablow repeated his claim that Bono would hurt children by convincing them to become transgender. Ablow also analogized the situation to "if a person came to me tattooed as a zebra," adding, "I'm not going to have my kids watch a show in which people pretend to be farm animals."
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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Shana A

Howard Stern vs. Keith Ablow on Chaz Bono: the complete transcript
Liz Brown, Examiner
September 8, 2011

http://www.examiner.com/howard-stern-in-national/howard-stern-vs-keith-ablow-on-chaz-bono-the-complete-transcript

Psychiatrist and FOX News contributor Dr. Keith Ablow called in to the Howard Stern Show Thursday morning to defend his position that Chaz Bono's casting on Dancing with the Stars could be harmful to children who watch the show.
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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AbraCadabra

Howard Stern, eh?

I beg your pardon, now what will that do?
To say anything more would have to be censored by our monitors.
This dude is REALLY beyond the pale, for all I can tell --- and I'm in SA!!!

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mimpi

I'm not American and have no idea who Howard Stern is but after reading the transcript all credit to him, he was absolutely awesome in dealing with that idiot.

How the hell can such a moron be practising as a psychiatrist? He should be struck off for that interview or at least be suspended and severely reprimanded.
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wheat thins are delicious

HS: "So what you're telling me is that psychiatric illness is contagious?"

KA: "Correct. Correct."



I refuse to believe that Keith Ablow is a real doctor. 


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Lisbeth

Quote from: Zythyra on September 13, 2011, 09:08:54 AM
Ablow also analogized the situation to "if a person came to me tattooed as a zebra," adding, "I'm not going to have my kids watch a show in which people pretend to be farm animals."
I guess by extension that means all Disney cartoons are off limits to kids too.

I also guess he doesn't know much about animals. I don't know of any farms around here that have zebras.
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bojangles

Quote"You're ridiculous," replied Stern.


Ablow is really showing his stripes.
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spacial

I don't really know who either of these men are, nor do I really care frankly.

I've exprerssed the position that Ablow is a paranoid exhibitionist. Based upon what information there seems to be about him.

If he had any clinical intent, then positioning himself in an offensive role, before even interviewing his patient, is hardly likely to establish any sort of clinical relationship.

That only leaves his attempts to create an adverse affect upon others, whom he clearly preceives as being in a socially and morally weaker position to himself. (In most of the world he would be a paranoid psychopath. My understanding is that psychopath has a different defination in the US).

His claims to have political intentions are clearly at odds with the well established intent of America, to allow those with views, at odds with established views, to flourish. (Equality for all races. For women. Equality before the law. All dangerous notions which were permitted to fester in the USA!  :laugh: )

His claims that transgender is socially insidious are at best specious.

I personally think he's a sad individual and this interview has done nothing to alter that position.

I did listen to the recordings. If these are likely to impress anyone in the US, it may say more about the US than it does about the two gentlemen concerned. The entire interview was just a noisy rant.

We do this sad man a disservice, along with ourselves by paying him more heed than he or his views deserve.

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Vicky

With all the publicity that Ablowhard is giving the show, DWTS will have some of the highest ratings its ever deserved for about 2 weeks, and then the kids will find something else much better to watch!!  If CB can't dance, worth a hoot, I'm more afraid of simple boredom setting in on the kids.
I refuse to have a war of wits with a half armed opponent!!

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tekla

FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Lukas-H

This poor man (Ablow) is the one who needs help.

I don't know much about Stern or his deal or how/if people like him, but I think he looks to be a decent guy when I read this interview. I'm of the same mind as him that it's no skin off my nose to let people live their life as they want as long as they aren't harming people. There's a lot of things wrong with the world but transgendered people are not among the things that are wrong.

I also loved the comment about how it would be -healthy- for kids to see that not everyone is so sure of themselves all their life and that people do have issues, confusions, insecurities. Kids often think of adults as being so 100% sure of themselves but that's not the truth at all. Humans and humankind are a mess, that's not a bad thing. It just means we have a ways to go, but we will always be insecure of ourselves in some way and afraid and that's just sort of the natural way.
We are human, after all. -Daft Punk, Human After All

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Lukas-H

Quote from: tekla on September 13, 2011, 10:13:17 PM
Zebras are not farm animals.


Zebras are beautiful and so are farm animals. People are also beautiful and so is Chaz but Ablow is a man with an ugly mind. :)
We are human, after all. -Daft Punk, Human After All

The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all. -Mulan
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Luc

It's funny... I saw an episode of Howard Stern's show where he called Chaz a confused woman who needed a good man to teach him what being a real woman is like.

Perhaps he's learned a bit in the past couple years.
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cynthialee

you know your weaksauce when you get pwn'd by Howard Stern
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
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tekla

I don't know, he's got a rep for being very rude and tasteless (which is fine by me), but I've never though of him as dumb, he's very quick thinking (graduated magna cum laude from Boston University) and has an awesome bull->-bleeped-<- detector and never hesitates to call people on it.  He's #26 on the Forbes celebraty list, and still holds the record for one day books sales for the release of Miss America.  People though he was crazy for going on satellite radio, but it turns out he was just way ahead of the game.

I mean really, check it out:
With an annual budget of $100 million for all production, staff and programming costs, Stern launched two channels on Sirius in 2005 named Howard 100 and Howard 101. He assembled the Howard 100 News team that covered stories about his show and those associated with it, and a new dedicated studio was constructed at Sirius' headquarters in New York.  On January 9, 2006, the day of his first broadcast, Stern and his agent received 34.3 million shares of stock from the company worth $218 million for exceeding subscriber targets set in 2004.  A second stock incentive was paid in 2007, with Stern receiving 22 million shares worth $82.9 million.

Turns out everyone who's gone up against Howard thinking they'd be the one to get him has got owned by him.
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kyle_lawrence

"And if Chaz wants to be a zebra and pretend he's a zebra. I'll go: 'Hey Chaz. I'm gonna put you in the zoo. You're a zebra.'"

that literally made me lol.
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Vicky

What have we got against Zebras that we want them confined to zoos or farms??  They have better places to be their real selves too.
I refuse to have a war of wits with a half armed opponent!!

Wiser now about Post Op reality!!
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