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Quote from: Pica Pica on October 04, 2011, 12:53:38 PM
Pity there are more freaks than theatres...and a pity all the rich mummy's boys have taken all the best jobs.

Then it's time to make your own theatre, and make your own job.

Theater in the Trees. Really, up in the trees.

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Quote from: Alexmakenoise on October 04, 2011, 07:40:35 PM
Then it's time to make your own theatre, and make your own job.

Send me the money, and I'll do the thing.

Investers are key to starting any enterprise, start looking up the food chain
There are always people interested in the arts.

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more freaks than theatres
True, it's why it's so competitive, that and the money in a place where the best fiction they ever deal with are the accounting books.

the rich mummy's boys have taken all the best jobs
Not in Cali, far too competitive here.  It's brutal really.

I think that as far as creative pursuits are concerned, you often have to do what you love for free before you get paid for it.

But if you really commit to doing something creative for free, and sharing it with as many people as possible, just because you love it, chances are it will eventually turn into something you get paid for.  At least if you work hard and have the right attitude about it.

And if it doesn't pay off financially, at the very least you'll have more fun and learn more than you would staying home after work like most people do.

Quote from: Alexmakenoise on October 05, 2011, 10:41:57 PM
I think that as far as creative pursuits are concerned, you often have to do what you love for free before you get paid for it.

But if you really commit to doing something creative for free, and sharing it with as many people as possible, just because you love it, chances are it will eventually turn into something you get paid for.  At least if you work hard and have the right attitude about it.

And if it doesn't pay off financially, at the very least you'll have more fun and learn more than you would staying home after work like most people do.

the bad thing about getting money over doing things you love, is that more often than not the money takes out the fun from the activity.
I can't paint for a comission, and I struggle with programming for a job. Though I'm getting more luck with the programming since it's actually less creative...

Quote from: ZaidaZadkiel on October 05, 2011, 11:39:46 PM
the bad thing about getting money over doing things you love, is that more often than not the money takes out the fun from the activity.
I can't paint for a comission, and I struggle with programming for a job. Though I'm getting more luck with the programming since it's actually less creative...

I decided early on to avoid setting myself up to rely on my creativity for income because I didn't want to have to compromise my aesthetics in order to get paid.  I have questioned that decision at times, as I've seen people I went to school with go on to have successful careers in film and music.  But I also really appreciate the balance my life has - I have a career in information science where I use my analytical abilities, and I write songs and perform them and get to have total creative freedom because I'm not in it for the money.  Of course it would be nice to eventually earn some income from music (as opposed to breaking even), but at this point I'm happy to simply do what I love and be part of a community of creative people.

The real reason that most people don't make it in creative stuff is that they don't want to work hard enough to make their stuff really that good.  It takes years, if not decades to do so.  It tends to be a long, long way from your creative ideas, to a solid creative reality.

That and they always give the old person a break, sometimes just for showing up. 

Quote from: tekla on October 07, 2011, 04:51:01 AM
The real reason that most people don't make it in creative stuff is that they don't want to work hard enough to make their stuff really that good.  It takes years, if not decades to do so.  It tends to be a long, long way from your creative ideas, to a solid creative reality.

Still working on this, I'm nearly there, very nearly.

It's a long hard road to see through to the end. 

Helping to run a pub, which is what I do and I love it.   I'm a barmaid, a barman, a porter, a cellarman,  a chambermaid,, a waiter, a waitress,  a cleaning lady, a furniture mover,  an odd job man, a seamstress,  a cook.  Both sexes equally, and I'm just the same me for any of them  and nobody queries it.  If they did I might even have to do another job which is very rare - a chucker-out.

jeez babes when d`you sleep?

You've got a point there, Teema, but what a person in my sort of job needs is a hidey-hole where he  go for a snooze and nobody can find him to get him to do something. And I've got one, but I'm not going to tell you where it is.   

BTW, I've just seen that when I typed this out, there was the pronoun problem coming up.  He? Him? That's what I wrote without thinking.  What else could I do?  I suppose I could have written "they, them" . I see there is a thread on this on this site. I haven't joined it, but I think the only solution for us here is to use the pronouns of our physical state.  I just lifted my skirt and looked underneath, just to check. and it has to be "he".  Small, and sometimes more of a nuisance than anything else, but "he".

I settle for 'he' also.  It feels a bit like a little white lie, but is easier than asking people to use neutral pronouns that sound odd evn to myself.

When I went to find Zadia, and I did, I couldn't understand what she was trying to say. She was annoyed at me, but we had had words through emails that I needed to be clarified. I felt I had done something wrong. Maybe I did, I never did find out.

I got a glimpse of her world, the people mostly. She is married to one of the handsomest man I have ever seen.  You can just see the love they have together. I also got a couple glimpses of her handiwork. She is an artist. There were some things that weren't for each other, but she did it. Very cool.
Her little avacado seed crvings are darling to just awesome. The macrame was very nice with natural things you'd find along the seashore.
Which reminds me, Mexico being Mexico as it is, I think they are in a very cool place. I'm jealous of Zadia, I'm jealous of her having love like that.

So anyways, Zadia looks like she has the world for her to play in. Nice job if you can do it, I think she has.

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