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SHOCKED! I have to live as a women BEFORE any therapy begins?!

Started by Zarania, November 30, 2011, 07:13:54 AM

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Zarania

Quote from: Lynn on November 30, 2011, 01:35:53 PM
I did some research earlier for your original questions (but didn't find much that I could actually read) and saw somewhere that SRS is partly covered. If that is the case I can only assume that HRT would be as well.

I'm not sure at all though, that's just speculation on my part there so I'd say either wait and see if someone from Switzerland has some more answers for you, or try and look for them yourself (which I would advise you do). So I can't be of more help.

well thanks for giving me a little bit of hope, because i really couldn't find anything about HRT and the health-care system would pay it :S
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Lynn

Quote from: Zarania on November 30, 2011, 01:47:53 PM
well thanks for giving me a little bit of hope, because i really couldn't find anything about HRT and the health-care system would pay it :S
I just did some more research and found this website: http://www.ilga-europe.org/home/guide/country_by_country/switzerland/transgender_rights_in_switzerland
It says on there "The costs for hormonal therapy are coverd by the basic health insurances."

So it looks like you're in the clear! :)
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Zarania

Quote from: Lynn on November 30, 2011, 01:58:05 PM
I just did some more research and found this website: http://www.ilga-europe.org/home/guide/country_by_country/switzerland/transgender_rights_in_switzerland
It says on there "The costs for hormonal therapy are coverd by the basic health insurances."

So it looks like you're in the clear! :)

THANK YOU!! *_*
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cynthialee

If you are old enough to work I would sugest getting a job and financing your transition yourself if you must.
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tsu 'The art of War'
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Zarania

Quote from: cynthialee on November 30, 2011, 03:05:18 PM
If you are old enough to work I would sugest getting a job and financing your transition yourself if you must.

well actually im to young to earn any "good" money, so i couldn't pay it by myself if the health-insurance wouldn't pay it.  :'(
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El

Did you try the link on the post i made near the start of the thread, im curious about whether it is a usefull site lol
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Berserk

I think the best thing you can do is contact a local LGBT org. Which city are you in? Maybe if you're in a smaller rural area head to Zurich or another major city and try to find a local LGBT organisation, whether it's at a university or elsewhere. Getting into contact with more Swiss trans people is probably the best thing you can do to help yourself and find a medical practitioner who can help you begin transitioning.
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Zarania

Quote from: El on November 30, 2011, 04:17:37 PM
Did you try the link on the post i made near the start of the thread, im curious about whether it is a usefull site lol


the site was more than useful! i mailed them with some questions and 2hours later some transgirl emailed me that i can talk with her about everything, because she's done with the transition, in 1hr and a half im going to have a phonecall with her - im so excited!

so thank you again!
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pebbles

I'm pretty sure it's the same here in the UK... It's a disgusting practice whitch is widley used. I personally self-medicated after having dealt with bigotry of the medical profession I have no regrets except for not having done it years before.

Came out after 3 months while prior to that pepole just thought I must have the flu or somthing as I was becoming very skinny and pale. After 3 months tho It became more and more difficult to hide my breasts and questions were starting to be asked.
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Carlita

Well, there's no law to say you need a reason to see a therapist. So there's nothing to stop anyone seeing a therapist, beginning general therapy and then letting the whole gender dysphoria/incongruity issue emerge during treatment.

That is what happened with me. Actually, the thing I found difficult - over DECADES - was not that I had to live in role before getting therapy, but that successive therapists refused to believe me when I reported my own dysphoria ... had they done so, I might well have transitioned 30 years ago. As it is, I remain non-transitioned and trying to accept who I am and how I am in both respects: ie. that I have a dysphoric element (at the very least) to my personality, but I also, as a matter of practical fact, am able to function as a man and have dependents who relate to me as a son/brother/husband/father.

My point is we all go on our own journey and the job of a therapist, in any country, is to help each individual understand their own journey so that they can decide for themselves how they wish to take it.

Both my therapist and my doctor (who had 30 years experience in the field and would probably be known to some of the British women on here) came to the same conclusion. They both agreed that there was no psychological or physiological reason why I could not transition successfully and function as well as a woman as I had done as a man. They both were prepared to sign the letters authorising the medical treatment I would have to receive. The issue was entirely down to my desire or need to transition. For myself, as yet, that desire has not outweighed the other factors I have to consider. Others might have taken a very different decision.

For you, Zarania, as a much younger TS woman, the issues will be very different. The role of a therapist in this context should be very clear: to give you information about the nature of transsexuality and the process of transition and - more importantly - to help you determine precisely who you are and how you wish to proceed.

In that context it would be a huge mistake to pre-judge things by forcing you into Living In Role before you are completely ready. It's also worth adding that the advice I received from health professionals in the UK - and girls who'd been through transition - was to do the basics like removing facial hair and working on my voice BEFORE I even attempted to go full-time. As that Swiss link clearly states, there is a very close connection between passing successfully and transitioning successfully.

I cannot believe that any advanced western nation would have treatment protocols for gender dysphoria that ignored that established finding.
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