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My gay ex dilemma!!!

Started by MsDazzler, December 11, 2011, 10:07:12 PM

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MsDazzler

Ok, so, I have this ex who we shall name Brandon who I dated when I was a gay man 2 years ago. Needless to say, it was a stormy and dramatic relationship. He was Dr. Hyde and Dr. Jekyl, especially when he was drunk. He drove me to tears many times with his barrage of verbal abuse. However, he had an incredibly sensistive and soft side that I loved. Also,  I found him very attractive physically and very intelligent. Plus he was deaf and knew ASL as well, so that was a big boon.

It was a long distance thing, also... because we met while I was in Rochester in graduate school and I interned in San Francisco; he was living in San Diego that time. So during the 2 month internship, we had a long distance thing going on between San Diego and San San Francisco. Then when I had to go back to Rochester, it became a coast-to-coast long distance thing.

Then surprise ! I got hired for my job where I interned in San Francisco after I graduated. I was thrilled to no end. I packed up and took a road trip to California, and stopped by San Diego to visit Brandon.

Guess what? Brandon brought home a guy when he was drunk and we were at a bar. I ended up sleeping with his friend who I barely had met and knew as revenge because I was drunk and upset that he would do this to me after I had gone all way from Rochester. It was the final straw after all the ups and downs with Brandon.

Then in the very early morning, I packed up and hit the road to San Francisco without saying good-bye. I cut off all our texting messages. I deleted him from Facebook and thought it was over and finished. That was 2 years ago.

I finally came out as transgender last year.  then... wham!

I found out that Brandon moved to San Francisco last year. Of course I was infuritated to hear that - I had thought he was out of my life for good. Somehow I never ran into him at the gay bars for months, until we finally ran into each other last spring. It was very awkward and he finally saw me in woman mode. We barely said hi.

We saw each other few times afte rthat but I always made sure to keep it brief and impersonal. Then yesterday I ran into him again when I was out with friends at Castro during the day. We ended up having a talk after few alcoholic drinks.

To sum it up - he apologized profusely for his behavior and how he treated me in San Diego, and he said when he moved to San Francisco (Because of a job and a now-broken-up-with boyfriend), he was hoping that he would run into me and he had heard that I was changing into a woman. He said I was very beautiful and I told him I was on hormones already. I asked him if he liked me now or in the past, since he was gay.

To my surprise, he said he liked me better now because I looked happier and prettier as a woman than I was "cute" as a man.

To my double surprise, he wanted to rekindle it with me. I was very floored. I told him I needed time to think it over as I was too buzzed. We ended up ahnging out together all evening with our friends boozing it up.

So... now I have a dilemma and I was hoping some of you might have advice..
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MsDazzler

bummpppp... this grrl needs some advice!  :icon_ashamed:
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AbraCadabra

Am far too binary to help, though I wish I could.
I'm sure Mahsa will be of some help here. She's been along that path and is one intelligent girl. So let's wait and see, or PM her?

Axélle
Some say: "Free sex ruins everything..."
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Tyler

That is a very personal discussion that not a lot of people can give you advice on. What does your heart say? What does your brain say? Could things be different now that you two live close to each other?
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Torn1990

Quote from: MsDazzler on December 11, 2011, 10:07:12 PM
Ok, so, I have this ex who we shall name Brandon who I dated when I was a gay man 2 years ago. Needless to say, it was a stormy and dramatic relationship. He was Dr. Hyde and Dr. Jekyl, especially when he was drunk. He drove me to tears many times with his barrage of verbal abuse. 

Guess what? Brandon brought home a guy when he was drunk and we were at a bar. I ended up sleeping with his friend who I barely had met and knew as revenge because I was drunk and upset that he would do this to me after I had gone all way from Rochester. It was the final straw after all the ups and downs with Brandon.

My advice is to not get back together with this person. He honestly doesn't seem that great, i'm sure there are tons of great things about him but the above problems may happen again or get worse as you continue your relationship with him. If this man has ever been abusive to you in anyway you shouldn't get too close to him again, especially if you're a happier person now.
No problems with being friends, but I would form boundaries. :) hope this helps.
queer, transgender woman, Feminist, & writer. ~
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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: Axélle on December 12, 2011, 10:49:43 PM
Am far too binary to help, though I wish I could.
I'm sure Mahsa will be of some help here. She's been along that path and is one intelligent girl. So let's wait and see, or PM her?

Axélle

I read this and am still thinking of an answer to it.
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sonopoly

I don't know what to think - Gosh - relationships are so freaking complicated!  All of them, not just TG ones!  Look at Natalie Wood and Robert Wagner and Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton.  Sometimes the best relationships can be the worst, but worth it.  Passion is volatile, but can be the height of the ultimate pleasure.  I think you (the universal you) should weigh the pleasures and the tortures and look at the future and the consequences.  Passionate people might need turmoil to be happy.  I kind of live this way and can never live the white picket fence life -- I need energy and active interaction to feel alive.  I'd go crazy with the perfect calm sort of life, but that's just me.
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A_Dresden_Doll

Quote from: Torn1990 on December 13, 2011, 01:16:28 AM
My advice is to not get back together with this person. He honestly doesn't seem that great, i'm sure there are tons of great things about him but the above problems may happen again or get worse as you continue your relationship with him. If this man has ever been abusive to you in anyway you shouldn't get too close to him again, especially if you're a happier person now.
No problems with being friends, but I would form boundaries. :) hope this helps.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
What the pretty lady said. The relationship was abusive before, and probably will be, again. Though that may not always been the case, it usually is. I agree, be his friend, get to know him again. If you feel comfortable after getting to know him again with boundaries, then go for.
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MsDazzler

Yeah... someone told me that a leopard does not really change its spot... you can take the leopard out of the jungle, but not the jungle out of the leopard. lol.

I was thinking to myself - am I HAPPY that he re-emerged into my life? The answer I found... was not really good. I am not looking forward to the drama if I got myself into a situation with him again.

Besides, he is GAY, has a gay lifestyle, and hangs out in a gay community... dating him would make me simply feel I am regressing back to being a gay person, even if I am transofrming into a female.
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MsDazzler

Oh, also, I am hosting a holiday party at my place this Sat night, so I decided to invite him to hang out with him once more... without copious alcohol involved, to see if he has really changed - and if there is still chemistry
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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: MsDazzler on December 14, 2011, 10:28:44 PM

Besides, he is GAY, has a gay lifestyle, and hangs out in a gay community... dating him would make me simply feel I am regressing back to being a gay person, even if I am transofrming into a female.

+1

My ex and I still have sex every once in awhile and thus, why I am in limbo. He thinks ironic that he's doing the topping now. I told him, "Hun, I might as well be your girlfriend now. Your gay cred will go down if it gets out what you're doing". He is a well known SF athlete... Great bod, the face not so much.

My advise is not to do it. You don't want to be trapped in limbo. I mean I keep a limited connection to who I associate with in the culture.

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Jennifer

Quote from: MsDazzler on December 14, 2011, 10:32:29 PM
Oh, also, I am hosting a holiday party at my place this Sat night, so I decided to invite him to hang out with him once more... without copious alcohol involved, to see if he has really changed - and if there is still chemistry

This! Skip the alcohol, that would be my only advice. :)

Jennifer
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tekla

Hell no don't skip the booze, that's one of the key areas where he was a jerk, and you need to find out a) does he still like to drink, B) does it still affect him in that way?
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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MsDazzler

Quote from: tekla on December 15, 2011, 09:23:58 AM
Hell no don't skip the booze, that's one of the key areas where he was a jerk, and you need to find out a) does he still like to drink, B) does it still affect him in that way?

I agree - people tend to show their true sides when they are inebirated... also, I investigated further with his old friends and found out he has a path of destruction behind him - of guys with broken hearts and still angry at him, as well as having a history of verbal abuse in relationships.

Not really looking good anymore, lol
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MsDazzler

The holiday party is tonight - let's see what goes down...
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MsDazzler

Does anybody really care what happened or shall I just delete this thread? lol
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Jennifer

Quote from: MsDazzler on December 19, 2011, 09:20:33 PM
Does anybody really care what happened or shall I just delete this thread? lol
You better tell us! ;D

Jennifer
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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: MsDazzler on December 19, 2011, 09:20:33 PM
Does anybody really care what happened or shall I just delete this thread? lol

I care and honestly girl, you aren't a gay man anymore. So no, you don't want to come home and find him spreading the rentboys legs he met on A4A.
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A_Dresden_Doll

Pics or it didn't happen! Spill it, girl!
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