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The "Myth Vs. Reality about Transgender People" Thread

Started by MsDazzler, December 26, 2011, 12:51:31 PM

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Mahsa Tezani

Myth: drag queens aren't considered part of the trans spectrum.

Reality: Yes they are.
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TheAetherealMeadow

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on December 26, 2011, 09:37:16 PM
Myth: drag queens aren't considered part of the trans spectrum.

Reality: Yes they are.
Yes! For example, if some thug sees a trans woman and a drag queen/feminine man, they're not gonna care that the DQ/femme man doesn't identify as a woman. Chances are they'll get the same treatment as the trans woman. Gender non-conforming cis people don't have to worry about things like misgendering, legal name changes, and such but that doesn't mean they're not affected by transphobia.
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TheAetherealMeadow

Myth: Trans women have male privilege.

Reality: If you ask me, being constantly told that who you are as a person is bad and that you should be someone you're not isn't very much of a privilege.
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Annah

myth:

All trans women are lesbians or, at the least, 90% are.

reality:

there are just a diversity in sexuality with trans as there is with any other person


myth:
non ops are not real women

reality:
gender is determined by how the person sees themselves versus what type of surgery they have had

myth:
putting your hair up and wearing a skirt should make society stop addressing you with masculine pronouns

reality:
If you want people to address you to feminine pronouns you must do your part in not only your mental transition but your physical transition


myth:
all transgender people are psychotic and mentally ill

reality:
only 75% are :P

just teasing
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MsDazzler

Quote from: Emi on December 26, 2011, 08:54:19 PM
wow...maybe is better if i explian the reality of   transgender people that live as porn stars and sex´s workers

1) most of them not are "guy trapped in porn industry because they are poor",  usually be trans in this countrys mean be marginated.... and is very expensive...so a lot of girls must work as porns stars or  as sex´s workers
That mean... THEY ARE TRANSGENDER..

2) in the poor countrys dont the HRT  is not covered by  the public health...or for  medical secure...indeed is very hard already find a  medic that know how   give that treatment....
3) as i say usually this girls dont find work...and need money not only to  become the women that they are... too for  just living...so they  need  work in this  job...and in this job...you must got a erection..so usually they cant take hormones if want got money...
4) specially in most poor region..or years ago the people was very ignorant of the hormones....

How i know this..my girl friends is  a non op   transwoman ...  she work as sex´s worker ..as almost all her friend do

I am not saying that they are not transgender. It is not up to me to say who is or who is not.  I am just explaining how some of them can get rock hard and be tops.
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eli77

Myth: All trans women can be clocked. Truth: The ones you notice can be clocked. :P

Myth: All trans women are femme. Truth: Wearing a dress has very little to do with being female.

Those are the two that irritate me the most I think.
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Guantanamera

Quote from: Sarah7 on December 26, 2011, 11:57:15 PM
Myth: All trans women can be clocked. Truth: The ones you notice can be clocked. :P

Not true- even the most beautiful trans women can be clocked by a simple DNA test.

Sorry to burst your bubble.  :(
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eli77

Quote from: Guantanamera on December 27, 2011, 12:02:26 AM
Not true- even the most beautiful trans women can be clocked by a simple DNA test.

Sorry to burst your bubble.  :(

That isn't really included in the meaning of "clocked." It means "spotting." Not "forensic investigation." :P

I'm fully aware that I am most likely XY.
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TheAetherealMeadow

Quote from: Guantanamera on December 27, 2011, 12:02:26 AM
Not true- even the most beautiful trans women can be clocked by a simple DNA test.

Sorry to burst your bubble.  :(
Not always. It's possible for a trans woman to have a 46,XX karyotype if she is intersex. Conversely, it is also possible a cis woman to have a 46,XY karyotype if she is intersex.
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Emi

Quote from: MsDazzler on December 26, 2011, 11:52:31 PM
I am not saying that they are not transgender. It is not up to me to say who is or who is not.  I am just explaining how some of them can get rock hard and be tops.

ok,  but i must correct your explanation because is  far the reality of most of the trans girls from south america...

In your explanation seems (maybe dont was your intention..but that is how look :P) as if  all this girls  are only guy that become women just  because they are poor and  want a easy (?) way to  got money. And that is not how the things happen... usually  here nobody know about HRT , only got surgery, and some take shots of strogen. And sadly discover what her path into the transition  cut all her chances for a job and are usually margined by her family.. Anyway, this girl usually have erections and must be top to work...(indeed some of they really like be top sometimes..but usually the most of them only are top for work reasons)

:)  i am not trying to fight or invalid your explanation...maybe  that happen sometimes, who know..but really is not more easy just take  4 or 5 trans girl that are living  as sex´s worker that already  do some steps into transition, than take a random "big member" guy form the street and  transform him into a woman?

As usual, i hope my bad english dont mess all xDDDDDD
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Mahsa Tezani

Myth: If a guy dates a transgirl, he's gay or a gay in denial.

Fact: It all depends on the guy and what he wants.
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Annah

Quote from: Guantanamera on December 27, 2011, 12:02:26 AM
Not true- even the most beautiful trans women can be clocked by a simple DNA test.

Sorry to burst your bubble.  :(

not necessarily. A simple DNA test will not "clock" me. Trust me

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fionabell

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Alainaluvsu

Myth: Transsexuals just want to trick you into sex.
Fact: Transsexuals just want you to identify (and treat them as) their target gender.
To dream of the person you would like to be is to waste the person you are.



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Kelly J. P.

Quote from: MsDazzler on December 26, 2011, 11:52:31 PM
I am not saying that they are not transgender. It is not up to me to say who is or who is not.  I am just explaining how some of them can get rock hard and be tops.

... Well, in response:

Myth: HRT makes erections hard to obtain.
Fact: Erectile ability is not always lost. I'm an example of this.

It applies to HRT as a whole, actually. There are a lot of commonalities in what happens with it, but there is no certainty when it comes to what it will and won't do. It doesn't guarantee breast growth, it might not reduce body hair, and it won't always change how well one's genitals will function. Uncertainty is just part of the fun, I guess.

And two of my own...

Myth: Trans women copy female stereotypes (Implies that, while they claim to be women, they don't have the mind/instinct for it).
Fact: The above is often true when a person begins transition, however, by the end the above is rarely true as they find themselves along the journey. This is similar to a child growing up.

Myth: The below is true.
Fact: The above is true.

:p

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Miniar

Myth; Trans men just want male privilege cause being women sucks so much in today's society.
Fact; Trans men actually just want to be themselves.

Myth; Trans men obtain male privilege from transition.
Fact; ... Only if they're perfectly stealthed and never outed can they obtain "passing" male privilege.

Myth; Gay trans men love Yaoi and want to live it out irl.
Fact; Most trans men don't love it, many of 'em don't even know what it is, and very few people in general are willing to risk surgery and other permanent physical  changes to their bodies just to chase a simple sexual fantasy.



"Everyone who has ever built anywhere a new heaven first found the power thereto in his own hell" - Nietzsche
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Natkat

Quote from: Miniar on December 27, 2011, 07:21:35 AM
Myth; Gay trans men love Yaoi and want to live it out irl.
Fact; Most trans men don't love it, many of 'em don't even know what it is, and very few people in general are willing to risk surgery and other permanent physical  changes to their bodies just to chase a simple sexual fantasy.
this one annoyed me alot since I actually like yaoi. But honestly theres a big diffrent to have your gender because of who you are and what you sexually have fetish with, if my transdition where to decribe my sexual fellings then I bet I had stayed a girl.
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another annoying one;

myth: transguys have it more easy than transwomen/ sociaty accept transguys more than transwomen.

realety: many people only know transwomen exist, many wont notice a transguy who pass well, and because of that wont comment and a transguy who dosent pass would just be consider a tomboy or butch, but not be accepted as a male but simply a manly girl.


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Joeyboo~ :3

Myth: Transwomen are just REALLY gay men.

Reality: There are some transwomen who identified as straight men before they transitioned. And while I WAS a gay boy, I was not the over-the-top flamboyant kind of gay.
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fionabell

Quote from: Miniar on December 27, 2011, 07:21:35 AM
Myth; Trans men just want male privilege cause being women sucks so much in today's society.
Fact; Trans men actually just want to be themselves.
???
Quote
Myth; Trans men obtain male privilege from transition.
Fact; ... Only if they're perfectly stealthed and never outed can they obtain "passing" male privilege.

???
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MsDazzler

Quote from: Kelly J. P. on December 27, 2011, 06:13:50 AM
... Well, in response:

Myth: HRT makes erections hard to obtain.
Fact: Erectile ability is not always lost. I'm an example of this.


I have to agree with that -

Here is another one...

Myth: Transgender women are bottoms.

Reality: Some are tops. Gender does not reflect top/bottom.
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