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I'm Ugly as a Guy, I'm Going to Be a Really Ugly Woman. i have no hope left

Started by sysm29, December 29, 2011, 09:31:46 PM

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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: Felix on December 30, 2011, 02:03:12 AM
Yes, but aren't they like, made of cardboard? Regardless, robot sex ftw.

I think they are frenchmen under those suits.

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8888

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on December 30, 2011, 12:30:59 AM
I admit...I've had extensive plastic surgery and I want more more more!

I thought you said you didn't? Like you said you never had FFS, any surgery to feminize your appearance is FFS.
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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: 8888 on December 30, 2011, 02:21:13 AM
I thought you said you didn't? Like you said you never had FFS, any surgery to feminize your appearance is FFS.

I broke a few commandments..I admit it.
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Felix

everybody's house is haunted
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8888

Quote from: Annah on December 30, 2011, 12:06:29 AM
You don't transition to become a cover model for Marie Claire, rather, you transition to become yourself.

Ugh, I see MTF transitioners in two categories:

1. Transitioning to align your appearance with your feminine character.
2. Transitioning to look like a woman.

Most will fall under both categories 1 and 2, a lot will fall under just 2, just a few will fall under 1. For example, your character may be quite masculine; your gender presentation tends more towards the stereotypical male than female, in which case if you transition you will be in category 2. On the contrary though, people who are just in category 1 may not have to transition at all; who says you need to look like a woman to act like one? Wanting to look like a woman is a rational choice.

What I'm trying to say is, there is no switch inside your brain exclusive of all other components including personality characteristics which tells you that you are a man or woman, or that you're stuck somewhere in between. That "switch" is actually the vessel in which your character lies within - your body, and it's not as ambiguous as some people make it out to be.

Say if you were a man living amongst other men, and your character tends towards male, your "switch" is set to biological male. There is no need to transition because you simply are not aware of the female sub-species. This is category 2, and if made aware you feel as though you must transition into a woman, you made a rational choice which isn't based on some pre-destined memory you were born with.

Why do I feel this way? Well, I think if the woman in the above example didn't have any attributes which made her stick out from the men around in a positive way, the chances of wanting to transition are greatly reduced. For example, she might have been really ugly, or not very intelligent etc... I belive the reason why so many people are transitioning nowadays is to do with the positive aura surrounding women (in terms of their appearance), as well as less limitations socially.

If OP wants to transition to look like a woman, or to look like a beautiful woman, that doesn't make him any less TG than many others out there. If you ignore personality, wanting look like a woman or a beautiful woman are in line with each other. It's logical to want to be a beutiful woman, given the light they're portrayed in via the media. I don't think anyone has a right to tell OP they're not true transgender and to seek psychological help elsewhere.
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justmeinoz

 Sysm, I know you have said that your situation  feels  hopeless.  It's not, but I think that you will have to look at it more realistically. 
At 26 you are young enough to have a good transition, but only if you forget about male standards of what women should look like.
Real women are just that; real, not some airbrushed photo on the cover of a magazine.
I think you are going to have to ask yourself some hard questions about what you want, and what price you are willing to pay for a real world result.  Perfection doesn't exist, so we have to deal with reality instead.  Once we realise that life becomes much more enjoyable too.

Karen.
"Don't ask me, it was on fire when I lay down on it"
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JenJen2011

When I decided to transition and popped that first hormone pill in my mouth, the thought of whether I'd ultimately be passable, or beautiful at that, never crossed my mind. I just did it because I had to, no matter how I'd turn out in the end.
"You have one life to live so live it right"
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Zarania

Quote from: JenJen2011 on December 30, 2011, 09:07:42 AM
When I decided to transition and popped that first hormone pill in my mouth, the thought of whether I'd ultimately be passable, or beautiful at that, never crossed my mind. I just did it because I had to, no matter how I'd turn out in the end.

THIS.



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OP i saw your other threads and my reaction :


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MsDazzler

Quote from: JenJen2011 on December 30, 2011, 09:07:42 AM
When I decided to transition and popped that first hormone pill in my mouth, the thought of whether I'd ultimately be passable, or beautiful at that, never crossed my mind. I just did it because I had to, no matter how I'd turn out in the end.

What if I already had plenty of previews before I took hormones - I had dressed like a woman for years and led a "double life"  as a gay man/hetero woman but never really happy with being gay, but I made a stunning and passable knockout as a woman.... I finally realized that I was transgender and had two choices - I could either stay a cute, but unexciting guy, or a sexy, tempting lady?

And coupled with everyone telling me, "OMG, you look so hot" or "You should have been born a woman" whenever I was en femme because I was so feminine and pretty...


Guess which route I took? :)

So.. I knew beforehand that I would be beautiful and passable before I went to that transgender clinic for my first hormones.

I transitioned to make my remaining life on this Earth better by spending the rest of my days as a woman.

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Carolina1983

You seem to think "wrong". What would you rather be? a ugly guy or ugly girl? :)


I would choose to be a ugly girl over being a good looking guy! As someone else wrote here, it is not the urge to look like a supermodel that makes you to take the decision to transition. It is the urge to be yourself that pushes you to do that.


I am not good looking either but that doesnt stop me. I want to be me and that is the most important thing.

Being beautiful is only a bonus which not all of us can get unfortunately.


I hope that things will turn for the better and wish you luck :).
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Elainagirl59

Beauty comes from within.  Cultivate the abilitity to see the beauty around you and you will be beautiful.  You might not
be the prettiest girl in the room but you have the ability to be beautiful.

I'm not to good with words ....  so I will practice cut and paste:

The Beauty Of A Woman


The beauty of a woman
isn't in the clothes she wears,
The figure that she carries,
or the way she combs her hair.

The beauty of a woman
must be seen from in her eyes;
Because that's the doorway to her heart,
the place where love resides.

The beauty of a woman
isn't in a facial mole;
But true beauty in a woman,
is reflected by her soul.

It's the caring that she cares to give,
the passion that she shows;
And the beauty of a woman
with passing years only grows.


Authorship is variously attributed to the following authors:
Maya Angelou, Ralph Fenger, Audrey Hepburn & Sam Levenson

Best wishes for a beautiful new year!
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fionabell

I think you're all being extremely negligent.

@Sysm29 you are at a fork in the road. One direction the road is rough the other direction leads to a cliff.

Being a man is an awful thing, in a perfect world, no one should have to be one. But if you have no choice then it's best to understand the terrible situation you are in so that you can best survive. Desire is the root of all suffering. You might suffer less if you submit to the yoke which was placed upon you and all men by nature. As I understand it, there are compensations to being a man.  Not many and not often but I believe they do exist.

You can either man up and take the rough road or you can drive straight to disaster.

Just remember, the universe was not set up for our pleasure. :)



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Annah

Quote from: fionabell on December 30, 2011, 04:19:01 PM
Being a man is an awful thing, in a perfect world, no one should have to be one.

That's very misandry of you. I'm sure the FTMs absolutely loved that comment and feel very welcomed.

I think we can give the OP advice without putting down the entire male gender.
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Mahsa Tezani

You're a transgender woman... Even me and my performer friends aren't up to society's "classical standards"... I don't have a tiny waist or anything.
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MsDazzler

In spite of how lunatic this thread was, just had to bump this one and give this a +1 in light of the recent debate about appearances being a relevant factor in deciding to transition.

At least the OP is honest that she prefers to have good looks and that would be the reason she would transition.


+1
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Guantanamera

Quote from: Arch on December 29, 2011, 10:09:39 PM
I used to be with a guy that most people considered quite homely. He was skinny as a rail, wore glasses, and had a big nose and a funny-looking mouth. I thought he was the cutest thing on the planet.

Well, this pretty much describes me to a T.

I understand the Op's frustration with being unattractive and hoping that transitioning will give you a new lease on life so to speak.

In my humble opinion, I would stick to whatever feels right to you on the inside. If the choice is being an unattractive female or an unattractive male, what do you honestly have to lose? At least that was my reasoning in deciding to transition.

And frankly, there are quite a few homely people out there in the world. I mean, FFS, just drive to your local fast food joint and take a scope of the competition. My hope is that one day I'll pass well enough to meet a similarly attractive partner and settle down. What else can I really hope for?
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MsDazzler

Quote from: Guantanamera on January 02, 2012, 03:33:04 AM
Well, this pretty much describes me to a T.

I understand the Op's frustration with being unattractive and hoping that transitioning will give you a new lease on life so to speak.

In my humble opinion, I would stick to whatever feels right to you on the inside. If the choice is being an unattractive female or an unattractive male, what do you honestly have to lose? At least that was my reasoning in deciding to transition.

And frankly, there are quite a few homely people out there in the world. I mean, FFS, just drive to your local fast food joint and take a scope of the competition. My hope is that one day I'll pass well enough to meet a similarly attractive partner and settle down. What else can I really hope for?

That.

It is clear that I am not the only one who had "appearances" as one of the deciding factors.
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Assoluta

Quote from: 88881. Transitioning to align your appearance with your feminine character.
2. Transitioning to look like a woman.

I think a better use of words could be applied here. I don't think it's about an inner "feminine character" - many cis men can have a feminine character which is a form of male femininity. I would say it is more accurate that transitioning is often to align appearance with one's sense of being FEMALE, independent of whether one's character is feminine or not.

I would say appearance was a factor in my transition - I remember looking at my features and imagining the potential I had. But I think my desire to transition was so much more deep rooted that I would have transitioned regardless, simply because living life as a male was so unbearable that anything, even living life as someone who would always be read as 'trans' would be the lesser of two evils.
It takes balls to go through SRS!

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MsDazzler

Quote from: Assoluta on January 02, 2012, 01:06:02 PM
I think a better use of words could be applied here. I don't think it's about an inner "feminine character" - many cis men can have a feminine character which is a form of male femininity. I would say it is more accurate that transitioning is often to align appearance with one's sense of being FEMALE, independent of whether one's character is feminine or not.

I would say appearance was a factor in my transition - I remember looking at my features and imagining the potential I had. But I think my desire to transition was so much more deep rooted that I would have transitioned regardless, simply because living life as a male was so unbearable that anything, even living life as someone who would always be read as 'trans' would be the lesser of two evils.

thank you! I butted heads with some people last night just because I mentioned looks was ONE of the factors in my decision to transition and got lambasted for that.
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Maya Zimmerman

Quote from: sysm29 on December 29, 2011, 09:31:46 PM
I would sell my soul to the Devil to be a beautiful woman.

Be careful what you wish for.

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