Physical beauty isn't all about how your face is structured or how many pounds you carry around.  A LOT of it is poise, style, and, most importantly, self-confidence.  Confidence is very attractive.  Watch some television and you'll see many people who wouldn't be considered 'beautiful' if they lacked confidence, but are stars because of it.

Quote from: Nikorniki on January 07, 2012, 05:08:32 AM
Physical beauty isn't all about how your face is structured or how many pounds you carry around.  A LOT of it is poise, style, and, most importantly, self-confidence.  Confidence is very attractive.  Watch some television and you'll see many people who wouldn't be considered 'beautiful' if they lacked confidence, but are stars because of it.

This ^. Plus at one point I was very overweight. I've lost nearly 70 pounds now. I think that has actually helped my transition. The changes seem more dramatic.

Quote from: Nikorniki on January 07, 2012, 05:08:32 AM
Physical beauty is about, most importantly, self-confidence. Confidence is very attractive.

Physical beauty isn't about confidence. However confidence is a good trait, just don't confuse it with arrogance or being too talkative etc...

Quote from: xXRebeccaXx on January 06, 2012, 05:00:17 PM
Im a fat ugly pig. 

Then lose some weight?

@8888 Please, don't misquote me.  By editing what I've said while quoting me, you change the apparent meaning of what I have stated.  Context, context, context.

I'm much more attracted to confident people than people with low self-esteem.  Arrogance, nowhere near as much, but they may be completely justified in their arrogance.     

Webster's defines beauty as the quality or aggregate of qualities in a person or thing that gives pleasure to the senses or pleasurably exalts the mind or spirit. 

Confidence is beautiful to me by this or any definition.

Quote from: Nikorniki on January 07, 2012, 06:00:54 AM
Please, don't misquote me.  By editing what I've said while quoting me, you change the apparent meaning of what I have stated.  Context, context, context.

I'm much more attracted to confident people than people with low self-esteem.  Arrogance, nowhere near as much, but they may be completely justified in their arrogance.     

Webster's defines beauty as the quality or aggregate of qualities in a person or thing that gives pleasure to the senses or pleasurably exalts the mind or spirit. 

Only the apparant meaning wasn't changed, and the context is exactly the same... you said physical beauty, which relates to physique... something tangible.

Arrogance is never justified.

@8888 Confidence is something that can be physically sensed, therefore tangible.   A person's poise, carriage, gestures, expressions, and voice can indicate whether or not a person has confidence. 

Yes, a person's physique is part of their physical beauty, but it isn't ALL of a person's physical beauty.   A person's poise, carriage, gestures, expressions, and voice factor into their physical beauty. 

Quote from: J S on January 07, 2012, 12:25:18 AM
everyone tells me i look alright, but i can't see anything but my face screaming MAN, i can't be THAT biased about it

Everyone on here has told you that you either pass right now or that passing wouldn't be hard for you.
All of the "masculine" features you point out on your face, no one seems to see but you in your post.
You are a very pretty person; I'm harsh on people when it comes to passing and I noticed a lot of other people who usually seem to be to agree with me as well.
Just thought I'd comment on your post, since no one else did, but you really can be THAT biased.
A mind can greatly distort the way a person perceives himself/herself (in your case, herself, but this can apply to anyone).

Quote from: jainie marlena on January 07, 2012, 04:30:32 AM
I think this is true with my one day I look like woman the next I look like a man thing that happens to me when I am looking in the mirror. When I feel like me I see female things about me but when i feel like crap and start looking for male things about me I find them with no problem.

I have an expression  "The longer you look in the mirror, the uglier you get."  I remember that from when I was young.


You look like a young Hellen Mirren who is the goddess to all us fat ugly cisgendered women.

ETA  I realize that the joke might have been lost here.  Helen Mirren is considered a godess to everyone.  LOL She was voted as one of the sexiest women on the planet at age 66 years old.

http://www.salon.com/2011/08/03/helen_mirren_sexiest_body_in_the_world/




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Quote from: 8888 on January 07, 2012, 10:04:48 AM
Only the apparant meaning wasn't changed, and the context is exactly the same... you said physical beauty, which relates to physique... something tangible.

Arrogance is never justified.

when you quote someone it is ethical and appropriate to keep EVERYTHING in the quote. Quoting someone else and editing their work based on what you think they said is just wrong and it only makes you look bad, regardless on how you think others may perceive the person.

If this was done professionally you would probably lose your job. If you misquote someone academically (be altering a quote to fit your paper) will cause you to fail the paper. In forums, it's just wrong and in bad form.

I agree with Nikor. I can tell if a person has confidence by their body language and their eye contact.

quoted instead of edited

yup

Quote from: Annah on January 07, 2012, 06:29:13 PM
when you quote someone it is ethical and appropriate to keep EVERYTHING in the quote. Quoting someone else and editing their work based on what you think they said is just wrong and it only makes you look bad, regardless on how you think others may perceive the person.

That isn't to say that you can't alter their grammar if they made a mistake or if it would flow better in your prose or even to add clarity from a quote by a professional in a piece you're writing for a non-professional audience.

Of course, you can only do so when you add [brackets] to the quote to signify your change.

Quote from: xXRebeccaXx on January 06, 2012, 05:00:17 PM
Im a fat ugly pug. 

I think you're kinda cute!!!





NOTE TO OTHERS: It is sometimes better to ask for forgiveness than permission.
RE: Editing quotes

Quote from: Jenny_B_Good on January 08, 2012, 04:52:36 AM
I think you're kinda cute!!!





NOTE TO OTHERS: It is sometimes better to ask for forgiveness than permission.
RE: Editing quotes

Lol thanks for making me laugh,

Quote from: mixie on January 07, 2012, 06:37:57 PM
quoted instead of edited

Indeed

Quote from: Guantanamera on January 07, 2012, 08:44:06 PM
That isn't to say that you can't alter their grammar if they made a mistake or if it would flow better in your prose or even to add clarity from a quote by a professional in a piece you're writing for a non-professional audience.

Of course, you can only do so when you add [brackets] to the quote to signify your change.

That's when you wish want to addd add the strikethrough to the quote.

Quote from: Annah on January 08, 2012, 02:55:46 PM
That's when you wish want to addd add the strikethrough to the quote.

Is that how the html works on this forum?

I was speaking in general from Academic experience.

If a quote contains a typo, you can use [sic] next to the misspelled word signifying it was originally misspelled; I wouldn't advise correcting it if you intend on being grammatically correct.  Otherwise if you must correct it, I'd put the corrected portion in brackets.  For additions, ya - brackets to include anything you've added to the quote.

In reference to the OP...

why is everyone else so much more attractive than me?

Perhaps it is not a matter of attraction, but one of self-esteem.

why don't you get plastic surgery if you feel so ugly?