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Friends and Other Fundamental Things

Started by A, January 07, 2012, 03:57:11 PM

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A

"Mommy, how do I make friends?" asked the young shy child to her mother as they returned from her first day at the kindergarden.

That's pretty much how I feel right now. I'm quite ashamed of it, but at 20, I don't really have friends. I don't think I am making them flee, or actually fleeing them. Of course, my deep unease with my own body, name and role doesn't exactly bring me towards others, and my different behaviour isn't exactly a magnet for people.

Also, my ADD, which makes me take much longer than anyone to complete tasks, ask a lot of questions and get confused, can't help. Shyness and confusion mostly lead to clumsiness and inaction.

However, very few are the ones who dislike me... I couldn't even name one. Most people are friendly, and I have at least twenty people, at school, who I speak with in a friendly manner often when I meet them. And these last months, I have been doing efforts to go towards others. I even addressed a guy on my own to help him with his homework and chat, without any request from him. The people the closest to me in class discuss with me each week.

Despite all that, I don't have anyone I can call a friend. The only people who actually invite me to places or get my contact info are the kind of people who are super friendly with everyone without exception. These last years, my heart was more or less broken by that girl who I considered my best friend when she showed little interest for me, revealing my status as only one of her hundred secondary friends.

Most people have a group of friends they knew at high school or sooner that are close to them, it seems. I don't really have that kind of thing. Of the people I considered my closest friends, one has been mentioned above, another moved to Nova Scotia, another apparently judged me unworthy of her, and the last one is the selfish, swindler of a child I discovered in my co-tenant.

I'm not a very social person, as I get uncomfortable in crowds, hate attracting the attention and dislike everything about parties. Also, my ADD making everything long and tiring for me, I do need a lot of time alone to rest. But I'm not such a solitary person either. It looks wonderful to have people to call friends.

But even though I have overcome the pain of interacting with people as my male self, it still hurts to do so. It feels like lying to myself and to them. So I have kind of decided to postpone active friend-making efforts until after my social transition, when I am able to present myself to people as my true self.

But even when I reach that step... Of course, I am likely to be much more comfortable. I will probably be more confident, too. But transition isn't magical, and I don't see how it would stop me from being confused, clumsy and shy. Even if it did, I think I'm missing something important: how the heck do you actually make friends? I'm one of those people who needs to have pretty much everything explained to them, and that's just too hard a thing.

From the outside, I seem quite socially able, as I can interact with people without obvious failures, like some autists, for example, display. Because of this, people don't usually believe me when I ask them for help, and only think I am having self-confidence issues, or something akin to that. They usually serve me useless things like "just be yourself and it will come", or "just go towards others", or "go to a café sometime and try to meet people.

Those things, however, have all been tried, and do not solve anything in my case. They would help someone who has trouble getting to know others, or engaging a conversation. But even though I won't deny I'm not the best at that, those steps have been completed successfully already. The problem lies beyond.

But there's something major that I lack, and I wish I could put the finger on it. It seems instinctive to most people how to make friends and bond with people, but I don't think anything is instinctive to me. It's like my "default configuration" is always to do nothing and nod; even at my age, I'm still learning simple I've done all my life, like how to fold socks correctly, that anyone else would have easily guessed/observed without any further instruction. And I tend to forget easily, too. My mother has the erroneous perception I don't care about what people tell me and I always want to do it my way, but the truth is that forgot.

In the end, even when I gather the courage to ask someone about one of those simple things, they either don't believe me ("don't mess with me, just admit you don't care!"), overestimate me ("just go for it, you'll figure it out easily") or give me one of those annoying, useless pieces of advice that start with "just" ("how the heck do you want me to take an acceptable amount of time for my shower?" - "just look at the clock and don't use it to relax!")

Just so that you know, the worst thing you can tell me is that I don't care. I take pride in the fact that I pretty much always do care... Even if that's not how it appears. And since my mother is constantly saying that I don't care, she's not of much help. She thinks I'm stubborn and possibly have an obsessive trouble.

Sometimes, I feel the best way to help me would be to have someone observe me and correct me 24/7 for a few weeks, but that's not realistic.

Anyway, getting back to the main subject, I wanted to ask here, since I've always found it much easier to express myself by writing. Also, you people, not having seen me physically, shouldn't be stricken by the plague of my appearances that even diverts professionals' attention from helping me as much as they could.

I would like your thoughts and advice on this matter. Maybe you could also tell me how you actually made friends with people, too?

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Kim 526

Hi A,
I have one friend at work, one at home (ex-wife), and one other (who i am in love with...further complicating matters). They all have other friends, there's some distance, and they all don't have a lot of time for me. I understand.

So I gotta just try to be my own best friend. I go alone to movies, I go shopping alone, I read, I play my guitar. None of them are "team" sports so I don't expect to make any buddies doing those, but that's the way it is for me. I know no other ways. Kids at school never gravitated toward me no matter how many attempts I made.

Right now am in bed with pneumonia. For the past four days none of my selfish children have even peeked their nose into my room to say, "hey, you ok? How ya feelin? Can I get you anything?" So I'm feeling especially friendless now. (Bitter, party of one, your table is ready!)

But life turns on a dime. Things like this can and will change for me, I just know it. My mind and heart are open to whatever the future brings, but more important - what I bring.

But other than give up and cry over being alone, I am just going to have to keep it tough & keep it real, understanding that everyone isn't popular, pretty, and rich. Guess I just am who I am, for this life at least. Who knows what the next one will be like!

Hugs,

Kim
"Peace came upon me and it leaves me weak,
So sleep, silent angel, go to sleep."
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Lily

QuoteThat's pretty much how I feel right now. I'm quite ashamed of it, but at 20, I don't really have friends. I don't think I am making them flee, or actually fleeing them. Of course, my deep unease with my own body, name and role doesn't exactly bring me towards others, and my different behaviour isn't exactly a magnet for people.

Also, my ADD, which makes me take much longer than anyone to complete tasks, ask a lot of questions and get confused, can't help. Shyness and confusion mostly lead to clumsiness and inaction.

I know how you feel. I have big difficulties even appearing normal in public. I have high anxiety and social phobia, to where it's next to impossible to converse with someone in person who I don't know well and have absolute trust in. I have hearing problems, where I have difficulty differentiating between sounds in noisy areas. All sound just blurs together for me, and I can barely understand what a person is saying if the room isn't too loud. I have coordination issues and becomes disoriented easily (and I can't drive because of this) and it makes me look really awkward.

It's too much for people to deal with. I rarely know someone more than a few weeks before they get tired of me.

QuoteMost people have a group of friends they knew at high school or sooner that are close to them, it seems. I don't really have that kind of thing. Of the people I considered my closest friends, one has been mentioned above, another moved to Nova Scotia, another apparently judged me unworthy of her, and the last one is the selfish, swindler of a child I discovered in my co-tenant.

Everyone I knew from high school ended up a drug user, and I'd be surprised if any of them were still living.

I haven't figured out how to meet anyone since then. Sometimes people will stumble on me, but it's rare and it rarely lasts once they realize what a mess I am.

QuoteBecause of this, people don't usually believe me when I ask them for help, and only think I am having self-confidence issues, or something akin to that. They usually serve me useless things like "just be yourself and it will come", or "just go towards others", or "go to a café sometime and try to meet people.

I get this from people too, especially from people who don't understand or don't care to understand that just approaching someone like that terrifies me to tears. I could never just walk up to someone like that and start talking. I couldn't have a normal conversation in person with someone I don't trust, and I can't trust someone until I've known them for a long time.

QuoteDespite all that, I don't have anyone I can call a friend. The only people who actually invite me to places or get my contact info are the kind of people who are super friendly with everyone without exception. These last years, my heart was more or less broken by that girl who I considered my best friend when she showed little interest for me, revealing my status as only one of her hundred secondary friends.

I like having a few really close friends that I can trust completely and tell anything to, but if they don't see me the same way I can't deal with that. I like making homemade gifts and cards for people on birthdays or holidays who I am close to, and it hurts me deeply when a person doesn't seem to give a ->-bleeped-<-. It hurts when I offer to help and am met with confusion, or indifference, or "no I'll just get X to help." It hurts when I'm the only one who cares.

Which only adds to my distrust of people. I feel even stronger that I have to protect myself from being hurt, so I close myself off and eventually I just stop talking to people even more and hide myself because loneliness at least is less hurtful in it's familiarity.

I miss my former partner so much. I had complete faith in her in every way, and we used to talk for sometimes 14 hours at a time. She was my closest friend, and sometimes I think the only real true friend I ever had. I still love her and I think I always will. She even convinced me to start transition, which I could never have done without her hand guiding me.
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Eve of chaos

I go through cycles. I've had many beat friends in my lifetime and lots of different friend groups.
People tend to decide to hate me at one point and I end up alone again.
This being said I know the mechanics of making friends when you have none very very well.

I only seem to make best friends with people in similar situations. Meaning recently lonely people or otherwise. Also people who are single. People in relationships tend to seclude to their partner.

Anyway what I usually do is simple. It may sound stupid but I use Facebook. I go through the people you may know feature and add a ton of people who look interesting.
Then I post statuses everyday. Take not of who likes them and casually talk when someone comments.
Eventually someone likes/comments enough that they or you msg. You keep a conversation going for a few days then casually meet. Maybe get their # to txt. And eventually you click with someone. I go through a lot of people who I don't. It takes perseverance on my end but I'm horribly shy and quiet around people I don't know. fB helps ease that somewhat for me since it's online. The hardest part is making sure you don't come across as creeping.

It is exceptionally hard to make friends when you have none. I know this o so well. And being straight edge seems to make that 3x as hard at my age. But if you hang outt with people. Even as squiantances eventually You meet someone you can relax around. Just force yourself to be around people even if it's awkward. Perseverance is key.

A

Thanks for your input, you three.

I'm shamelessly bumping this topic. I would like anyone else having helpful thoughts that might help me to post.

I'm sorry, I just don't feel I've been really helped enough just yet, and the topic is already lost on the second page, on which I seriously doubt it'll get replies.
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