I've enjoyed crossdressing for almost twenty years. I've recently started taking a low dose of Estrofem Is this a good idea, bad idea. I'm interested in how it might make me feel. I love the moments I feel like a women. What should I expect?

Quote from: lovleylisa on January 03, 2012, 03:12:04 AM
Is this a good idea, bad idea.

I don't know, what are you hoping to achieve?

Is it prescribed by a doctor? If not I have a feeling most people will tell you it's a bad idea. Self medicating is always warned against from what I've seen.

We do a lot of things that are "bad" for us.
Self medicating is just one more little thing to add on.

Seems like you're on a reasonable dose anyway.

I can't recommend playing with fire (prescription only meds) without understanding the consequences of their use.
Generally sexuality reduces depending on how the body reacts to the drug.

Sweety don't do any hormones, UNLESS you are prescribed them.  I can't say that enough.  I'll tell you how to get prescribed and all that.  but well it's REALLY dangerous.

You can only get them if you are seeing a shink for gender issues.  The therapist must recommend them.  You then take that letter to a General doctor and ask him or her to refer you to an endocrinologist.

If your thinking you might like the resulsts of E, you might want to talk to a therapist and jsut see what they have to say.  I can recomend you a great guy that will talk to you over skype.  And hes been doing gender issues for a long time.
http://www.bebuddphd.com/

thank you everyone, I'm going to keep it up for a little while, I'm not sure why it interest me so much, I just know I really want to see how I feel.

If it's too low, you probably wont feel any different. I'd probably not dabble in it. Testosterone tends to seriously counterbalance Estradiol, and DHT REALLY kills the effects. I'm no professional, but I'd have to assume if you don't effectively neutralize your testosterone, estrogen wont make any difference whatsoever in what you "feel".

Not to mention unbalanced hormones can pose some health risks.

I don't think i have that option. I've been on Anti-androgen's for a couple of months(no estrogen) and mine have already grown(and I've lost weight due to exercise so they defiantly are boobs growing). I'm a bit worried because I believe I might end up as busty as a normal girl when I start estrogen sometime this month

So you better think about whether you have a buxom body type?

If you do some research into cross-gender hormone administration you will find a spectrum of responses falling somewhere between "feel so much better/calmer/happier" and "anxiety/felling ill at ease/not right." It is these reactions that make estrogen administration "diagnostic" in a sense. Often, the males that respond favorably to estrogen also report decreased libido, decreased desire to cross dress, even decreased interest/imperative in transitioning. If you think that taking estrogen will make your cross dressing more intensely pleasurable, I suspect you may be disappointed.

Quote from: lovleylisa on January 03, 2012, 03:12:04 AM
I've enjoyed crossdressing for almost twenty years. I've recently started taking a low dose of Estrofem Is this a good idea, bad idea. I'm interested in how it might make me feel. I love the moments I feel like a women. What should I expect?

if you're a crossdresser, you should not be playing with estrogen. It isn't perfume or body spray. Estrogen alters your body's physiology and it requires a doctor's prescription and to get that prescription you must see a therapist for the letter and then an endo.

So, in my opinion, it's a VERY bad idea for you. Also, from the dosages you gave, it will not have any physical effects so you are experiencing a placebo effect with the added cause of being harmed for taking medication you should not be taking.

Yeah, as far as I know, a better solution would probably be to go to a doctor known for being open-minded and to be put on dosages of anti-androgens for things like baldness and hyperactive pores and things like that, from what I know it seems to improve quite a few masculine traits and can finally give someone a more androgynous appearance. I'm not sure exactly how long one can stay on that plan though, as a 'testosterone or estrogen' route may be what you have to go through in the end to keep your body healthy.

One thing I'd like to research is simply how one can bring their hormone levels to a balanced place that may cause one to look androgynous without putting someone over the male or female edge either way - there's definately a lot of people who naturally have that sort of hormonal make-up in real life, and there's a lot of people out there, like Androgyne's or Cross Dressers, that would benefit from having a much more androgynous appearance, an appearance that can at least be pliable between gender appearance.

Dear lovleylisa

I'm not a mechanic, but I've just found some formula 1 racing fuel that I am going to mix with some nitrous oxide and put in my Model T Ford. Do you think it's a good idea or a bad idea?

Answer: It's a bad idea.  It will blow my Model T to kingdom come.

Sorry if I have wandered off topic slightly, however I thought it necessary to relate your question through a different medium. As you did ask the question"I've recently started taking a low dose of Estrofem Is this a good idea, bad idea"

Having read all the responses, it appears blatantly obvious to me, the cumulative response from all concerned here is that, it is a BAD IDEA. Yet, you have the audacity to belligerently ignore what has been said to you in one way shape or another; No! Please tell me, what part of No, do you not understand?

Self medication of these drugs can KILL you.  No ifs, buts or maybes' They can and they do KILL you.

I must apologise for my outrageous manners at this point in time. However, I'm sick and tired of trawling the streets of Sydney, picking up the shattered remains of people who willfully and blatantly ignore and disregard the advise of professionals regarding self medication, of any description. Then, in a heartbeat turn round and accuse these professionals of criminal negligence, by failing to accept the responsibility for their own actions.

It is clearly evident to me, you are in denial of your own true feelings. If you wish to proceed with this medication, can I insist you see a therapist or psychiatrist who can evaluate your current position, and if necessary refer you to an Endocrinologist who will, after a rigorous set of tests, determine the appropriate medication for you to experience whatever you want to experience; in a safe and fully supervised professional environment. Before you do any harmful, irreparable damage to yourself or others.

Thank you for your time and understanding.
Regards
Catherine

Do what you want, it's your body.

I've been self medicating for a while now and I feel great. Nice low blood pressure and everything. B) Do your research before taking though because it can be dangerous.

In before moral->-bleeped-<-s telling me to stop. I don't exactly have a lot of money for fancy blood tests and things.

Quote from: Heartwood (Alex) on January 11, 2012, 11:34:53 AM
Do what you want, it's your body.

I've been self medicating for a while now and I feel great. Nice low blood pressure and everything. B) Do your research before taking though because it can be dangerous.

In before moral->-bleeped-<-s telling me to stop. I don't exactly have a lot of money for fancy blood tests and things.

Are your doses correct for you? Are your levels too high, too low or OK? And when your liver packs it in, it'll suddenly get a whole lot more expensive..

Quote from: kelly_aus on January 11, 2012, 05:54:27 PM
Are your doses correct for you? Are your levels too high, too low or OK? And when your liver packs it in, it'll suddenly get a whole lot more expensive..

This pretty much.   That's why doing DIY hormones is such a bad idea.

Quote from: Heartwood (Alex) on January 11, 2012, 11:34:53 AM
Do what you want, it's your body.

Not very wise

It may be their body, but if they screw something up by self medicating its other who will pay for the funeral ><.  I'd see a therapist/doctor and see if they think its right for you with your crossdressing.

Quote from: Catherine Sarah on January 11, 2012, 11:25:04 AM
I'm sick and tired of trawling the streets of Sydney, picking up the shattered remains of people who willfully and blatantly ignore and disregard the advise of professionals regarding self medication, of any description. Then, in a heartbeat turn round and accuse these professionals of criminal negligence, by failing to accept the responsibility for their own actions.

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I remember reading that crossdressing was a sexual issue, and transsexualism was a gender issue.

Lisa, the hormones will ruin your sexual hormones if you continue. That I can tell you for sure. So maybe just think about it- Am I doing this for kicks?( which is totally healthly) or am I doing this as a way to tell myself something?(ie I'm transsexual)

A question for you:

When your dressed sitting on your sofa- Are you
1.) aroused? Excited? Happy? - If so , maybe a sexual kink?
2.) Calm? Peaceful? Lull? - If so, maybe transsexual?

If one - no hormones
If two - Talk to doctors - No hormones.

Hope this helps sweetie

Jenny

OXOXOXO

I feel relaxed and  calmer, I enjoy it, sometimes it's really enjoyable. I don't just want to try and look like a girl I want to feel like a girl and I can feel a little difference.