I saw this commercial being discussed on a crossdressing board several years ago: 

hmm, if you ask me, that whole debate is somewhat pointless and doesn't withstand close scrutiny (because if we took that ad seriously, it would mean that all post-menopausal women stop being women, with no sane being would agree to). On another meta level, ads like those simply reflect the inaptitude of the screenwriters to understand the issues they are raising (be they even just subconscious). it's either that or misogyny, well, it's probably a bit of both since I would claim misogyny permeates through all of life's various facettes *sighs*

It all is merely an indicator of the overall shallowness of consumer culture If they really wanted to have things resonate deeply in their viewers, they should raise issues with a bit more subtly
oh and btw, that reminds me of that Little Britain snippet I've seen once (I didn't actually have a clue about the series before) which I found a mix of unsettling, offensive and somehow shallow, and no, not even comic isolation seems to help there.

ah well, I'm drifting away....
*hugs*
~Jane

Kia Ora,

No I didn't personally find it offensive, I smiled when I saw it on TV...[But this no doubt is due to my somewhat warped sense of humor]...However I was a little shocked when listening to the local news to hear Libra NZ had pulled the ad because of complaints*I think they said around 100 complaints*...

I thought it was a clever ad, showing[in a slightly exaggerated way] how competitive the women's bathroom can be at times...There are many ways in which one can take this ad, I just saw the funny side...

And if we can't laugh at ourselves who can we laugh at ?

Metta Zenda

Quote from: Zenda on January 03, 2012, 03:58:43 PM
Kia Ora,

No I didn't personally find it offensive, I smiled when I saw it on TV...[But this no doubt is due to my somewhat warped sense of humor]...However I was a little shocked when listening to the local news to hear Libra NZ had pulled the ad because of complaints*I think they said around 100 complaints*...

I thought it was a clever ad, showing[in a slightly exaggerated way] how competitive the women's bathroom can be at times...There are many ways in which one can take this ad, I just saw the funny side...

And if we can't laugh at ourselves who can we laugh at ?

Metta Zenda

True, if we can't laugh at ourselves who can we laugh at? But the media so often portrays us in a negative light that it becomes "fact" in the eyes of the Cis population.

Quote from: rosetyler on January 03, 2012, 11:09:08 AM
I saw this commercial being discussed on a crossdressing board several years ago: 

This is an interesting one also, because its the first I've seen that portrays a Trans Man, and the operatic background music definitely gives this commercial an artsy twist.

I saw it as somewhat rudely silly 

PostStar.com


SCA in hot water after commercial offends transgender community

Posted: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 11:27 am

http://poststar.com/blogs/the_bottom_line/sca-in-hot-water-after-commercial-offends-transgender-community/article_7fdf3aba-362e-11e1-a2d8-001871e3ce6c.html

SCA, the global paper company, has yanked an ad campaign in New Zealand for its feminine hygiene products brand Libra after it offended the transgender community.

The commercial features two women, one of whom is presumed to be transgender, competing with each other as they primp in a public bathroom. They try to one-up each other as they apply lipstick, mascara and adjust their cleavage.

The transgender character storms out when the other woman pulls out a Libra tampon.

Finally saw this ad as my YouTube access is not possible due to blocked Xactive, etc.

I just had to laugh out laud - sorry girls, its too funny for all I can tell. Just watching the faces and that 'one-up-man-ship' of the trans-girl. Also she was a willing participant in this hole affair. No reason to be holier then thou, eh.

Too funny, so I'm for one NOT offended at ALL, what's to be offended about I ask, hey?

Hugs,
Axélle

Quote from: SandraJane on January 03, 2012, 08:34:20 PM
True, if we can't laugh at ourselves who can we laugh at? But the media so often portrays us in a negative light that it becomes "fact" in the eyes of the Cis population some cis people!.

Kia Ora SandraJane,

And this no doubt will always be the case "You can please some of the people, etc etc...!"

Metta Zenda

She should've been packing tampons lol!

I found it annoying that the transwoman was also wearing makeup that was just way over the top. Maybe they were at a club and she was being fancy, that's cool, but I noticed the ciswoman's makeup to be a lot more "natural" and it just reinforces the stereotype of transwomen looking like drag queens all the time.

And the subtext of the commercial played out in my head like:

Ciswoman's mind: "Oh, look, a ->-bleeped-<-. Huh. I'll show her with my makeup skills that I learned from being a woman from birth, heheheh. Check it, my mom taught me this technique when I was 12..."
Transwoman's mind: "Oh, great, she noticed me. Well, I'll show her I'm a woman too. Check my fabulous makeup!"
Ciswoman's mind: "Oh yeah, well I have BOOBS!" *pushes up cleavage*
Transwoman's mind: "Oh yeah? Me too!" *pushes up cleavage*
Ciswoman: "I HAVE A TAMPON. AND A VAGINA. HA!"
Transwoman: "I can't afford surgery and I'll never have my period... Screw this, I'm leaving without even going to the bathroom. I'm going to hold it till I get home and have a good cry and some ice cream."

Quote from: Queen Erika on March 12, 2012, 11:23:41 PM
I found it annoying that the transwoman was also wearing makeup that was just way over the top. Maybe they were at a club and she was being fancy, that's cool, but I noticed the ciswoman's makeup to be a lot more "natural" and it just reinforces the stereotype of transwomen looking like drag queens all the time.

And the subtext of the commercial played out in my head like:

Ciswoman's mind: "Oh, look, a ->-bleeped-<-. Huh. I'll show her with my makeup skills that I learned from being a woman from birth, heheheh. Check it, my mom taught me this technique when I was 12..."
Transwoman's mind: "Oh, great, she noticed me. Well, I'll show her I'm a woman too. Check my fabulous makeup!"
Ciswoman's mind: "Oh yeah, well I have BOOBS!" *pushes up cleavage*
Transwoman's mind: "Oh yeah? Me too!" *pushes up cleavage*
Ciswoman: "I HAVE A TAMPON. AND A VAGINA. HA!"
Transwoman: "I can't afford surgery and I'll never have my period... Screw this, I'm leaving without even going to the bathroom. I'm going to hold it till I get home and have a good cry and some ice cream."

Had that been me:

Ciswoman's mind: "Oh, look, a ->-bleeped-<-. Huh. I'll show her with my makeup skills that I learned from being a woman from birth, heheheh. Check it, my mom taught me this technique when I was 12..."
My mind: "LOL I'm a cosmetologist, and I have more skills with makeup than this snotty ... woman. BTW your eyebrows look uneven!"
Ciswoman's mind: "Oh yeah, well I have BOOBS!" *pushes up cleavage*
My mind: "Get a boob job, mine are damn near as nice ... and she just reminded me that this bra is uncomfortable ... STUPID BRA!" *adjust bra*
Ciswoman's mind: "I HAVE A TAMPON. AND A VAGINA. HA!" *Shows me tampon*
I say, "Girl..  did you know Libra tests their products on virgin bunnies??? And what makes you think it's that time of the month for me???"

For the record, I have no reason to believe Libra tests their products on virgin bunnies.

And looking at the commercial, the trans looks to have struck first with trying to be competitive. She was all looking crazy at her while applying that mascara, lol. Yeah the cis gave a funny "... okay" look at first, but it could've been that cakeface the trans came in with. It was awful!

Quote from: Queen Erika on March 12, 2012, 11:23:41 PM
I found it annoying that the transwoman was also wearing makeup that was just way over the top. Maybe they were at a club and she was being fancy, that's cool, but I noticed the ciswoman's makeup to be a lot more "natural" and it just reinforces the stereotype of transwomen looking like drag queens all the time.

Yup, that is what I found offensive too... that trans people are dilusional in how they look and are perversions of feminine beauty....

 Always something to make me angry at the world when I start caring for it again. This time with a side of triggers.

Loveleh.

The whole point of the ad was to reinforce the stereotypes...

Quote from: Bishounen on January 02, 2012, 10:29:33 AM


funny thai commercial "lady boy"

lololol.