it is illogical to assume that life is an anomaly.

yet, life itself can be illogical.



Live Long, and Prosper.

Personally I think life is hilarious!

In the absence of hard evidence I have to go with a definite "probably, but I can't prove it."  The speed of light is a pretty formidable barrier to travel over stellar distances.  As a confirmed "geek girl" I think it would be really neat if there was.

Karen.

Lot depend on what you call life ! but yes there is life out there
That *we* cant see or hear it doesn't prove a thing,if i was a visitor and look at a television *show* i would recommend to isolate that bunch of idiots.  Second space is HUGE.

It would be strange if we are alone in the universe. I mean what are the odds of that?


I strongly believe in life at other planets and I also believe  that we are missing a big chunk of our past. Because when you look at cave paintings etc you clearly see that there are beings that they painted that look like aliens. And the fact that even the Sumerians wrote that aliens genetically engineered us doesnt make me less convinced .


Well I might be a bit of a nutcase but I dont think that we should take it for granted that we are the grandest beings in the universe. Because there are evidence that suggests that earth was seeded by meteorites etc. And if earth was seeded then why should not other planets have been seeded too?


One of my biggest interests is space and the universe as a whole. There is so many mysteries to solve and so many things to explore. Please upload me to a computer and send me away on a spaceship that can explore the whole universe .

Quote from: justmeinoz on March 22, 2012, 06:19:53 AM
Personally I think life is hilarious!

In the absence of hard evidence I have to go with a definite "probably, but I can't prove it."  The speed of light is a pretty formidable barrier to travel over stellar distances.  As a confirmed "geek girl" I think it would be really neat if there was.

Karen.

I think that there may be other ways to get to far away places than travelling at the speed of light. One theory that makes me really excited is that it might be possible to fold the universe and therefore make shortcuts. That would be awsome .

Quote from: Carolina1983 on March 23, 2012, 07:59:46 AM
One of my biggest interests is space and the universe as a whole. There is so many mysteries to solve and so many things to explore. Please upload me to a computer and send me away on a spaceship that can explore the whole universe .

lemme guess, big SGU fan, too? ^_^

Quote from: Carolina1983 on March 23, 2012, 07:59:46 AM
It would be strange if we are alone in the universe. I mean what are the odds of that?


I strongly believe in life at other planets and I also believe  that we are missing a big chunk of our past. Because when you look at cave paintings etc you clearly see that there are beings that they painted that look like aliens. And the fact that even the Sumerians wrote that aliens genetically engineered us doesnt make me less convinced .


Well I might be a bit of a nutcase but I dont think that we should take it for granted that we are the grandest beings in the universe. Because there are evidence that suggests that earth was seeded by meteorites etc. And if earth was seeded then why should not other planets have been seeded too?


One of my biggest interests is space and the universe as a whole. There is so many mysteries to solve and so many things to explore. Please upload me to a computer and send me away on a spaceship that can explore the whole universe .

Can I join please?   

Quote from: Malachite on March 25, 2012, 09:57:00 PM
Can I join please?   

Boy, I'm afraid youll take up the computing power of the ship's matrix by running simulation scenarios that make yourself into Tuxedo Mask... yeash

Quote from: veritatemfurto on March 25, 2012, 10:04:15 PM
Boy, I'm afraid youll take up the computing power running simulation scenarios making yourself into Tuxedo Mask... yeash

LOL the sad thing is I probably would....

Quote from: Malachite on March 25, 2012, 10:06:16 PM
LOL the sad thing is I probably would....

we'd have to isolate your subroutines into a feedback loop.

  There is probably life on other planets.  The problem is distance to these places.  It would take tens of thousands of years for a radio signal to reach them.  The other questions arise.

1 Did life on a certain place evolve enough to facillitate the communications technology we have today?  SETI has not found any signal that can be construed as coming from an intelligent unnatural source.

2 If we did receive and understood the signal from another being out there, will those beings and their society still be around to receive the return signal from us?
 
3 If these beings did receive our return signal and sent a reply, will humans still be around to receive it?  Will our society change so that we no longer have the technology to do so or that it would be banned to receive that reply due to political or religious fears? 

4 Propulsion.  We still have the old chemical rocket technology.  A human trip to Mars will take 3 years to Mars and back.  Travel in the inner solar system is not good on the human body.  The astronauts in the ISS are still well within the Earth's magnetic field.  Getting to Mars is fairly easy.  It is the return that is difficult.  A return craft will have to slow down to get into Earth's orbit at a speed much faster than they left it.  It took Messenger two flybys past Mercury to slow down enough to get into orbit around it. 

5 If there are beings well ahead of our technology, Will they be friendly?  Stephen Hawking has this analogy that it would be like the European settlers in the Americas wiping out the aboriginal tribe after tribe with their advanced technology and diseases.  We may not have any warning of these beings arriving and doing what thay please despite our current technology.   

  Joelene

Quote from: veritatemfurto on March 25, 2012, 09:47:38 PM
lemme guess, big SGU fan, too? ^_^

I am actually more into movies like Cargo, Event Horizon and Alien . But SGU has its moments I have to admit that .


We should invent a spacecraft and upload our brains to the main computer then leave when we are too old to have fun on earth . So who is a good engineer?

Quote from: Carolina1983 on March 26, 2012, 01:53:54 AM

I am actually more into movies like Cargo, Event Horizon and Alien . But SGU has its moments I have to admit that .


We should invent a spacecraft and upload our brains to the main computer then leave when we are too old to have fun on earth . So who is a good engineer?

i donno about you, but I'd rather Ascend... lol a computer is a computer and can still crash and if that happens, you as a program might get corrupted lol

What evidence is that there is life here, from an ET point of view?
If that is your evidential statement can you prove it elsewhere?

It would be funny if we were the most technologically advanced beings in our area of the Galaxy.  Not much point listening for radio signals if the neighbours are just starting to master the steam engine. 

Karen.

Quote from: justmeinoz on March 26, 2012, 06:19:30 AM
It would be funny if we were the most technologically advanced beings in our area of the Galaxy.  Not much point listening for radio signals if the neighbours are just starting to master the steam engine. 

Karen.

"Subspace communication (also called subspace radio or the hyperchannel) was the primary form of communication used throughout the Federation. By transmission through subspace rather than normal space, subspace communication permitted the sending of data and messages across interstellar distances faster than the speed of light. This made it much more practical than conventional radio. In fact, Starships rarely even monitored frequencies that traveled at the speed of light or slower. (VOY: "The 37's")"
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Subspace_communication

It is logical to assume that any sentient non-violent species has developed a set of Prime Directives for reconnaissance and covert interaction with lesser pre-warp cultures of a solar system before engaging in formal contact.

Quote from: Joelene9 on March 26, 2012, 12:33:43 AM
4 Propulsion.  We still have the old chemical rocket technology.  A human trip to Mars will take 3 years to Mars and back.  Travel in the inner solar system is not good on the human body.  The astronauts in the ISS are still well within the Earth's magnetic field.  Getting to Mars is fairly easy.  It is the return that is difficult.  A return craft will have to slow down to get into Earth's orbit at a speed much faster than they left it.  It took Messenger two flybys past Mercury to slow down enough to get into orbit around it.

Actually, we've got that travel time down to about 9 months for MSL and may be able to shave that time down even more to three to five months each way, depending on orbital differences in the trajectory and continual development of more powerful and efficient engines... With a two to four week surface stay per mission, there could be as many as four crews in transit at any time if NASA and the rest of the IASC can do well with the proper backing.

Yeah I know computers suck =/.

It would be nice if we could manufacture bodies made for spaceflight . Then just swap bodies when needed. But ehm that is only in my mind .

Quote from: veritatemfurto on March 21, 2012, 09:03:40 PM

Live Long, and Prosper.

My daughter is Officially a Trekkie - she stayed home from school and is watching a full season of "Next Generation" !

Quote from: veritatemfurto on March 26, 2012, 09:40:51 AM
Actually, we've got that travel time down to about 9 months for MSL and may be able to shave that time down even more to three to five months each way, depending on orbital differences in the trajectory and continual development of more powerful and efficient engines... With a two to four week surface stay per mission, there could be as many as four crews in transit at any time if NASA and the rest of the IASC can do well with the proper backing.

MSL is a one way trip.  A 3 month transit to Mars was on the books long ago.  It is the return that's the problem.  In the 3 months that it took to go to Mars, the Earth had zoomed past Mars in its orbit. 
  The technology for a nuclear powered hydrogen thruster was made and tested long ago for the purpose of going to Mars.  That project got canned due to funding.  I knew someone on that project and he spoke at my club meeting once showing pictures of the breadboard setup and tests and a government flick on it.  That place is still in mothballs waiting for refunding.  Most of those on that project are gone now, it has been a long time.  There is much ado of sending nuclear reactors up safely using rockets.  The Cassini Saturn spacecraft was in legal limbo for a while before it was launched.  MSL is the hope here.  There is a reactor aboard "Curiosity" , but nobody did challenge that launch. 
  Curiosity will have an interesting landing on Mars this August.  It is called a skycrane method.  Something that's never been tried before.
  Joelene