Quote from: Tristan on April 06, 2012, 08:43:15 PM
i had not even started hormones till 2 weeks after my FFS

a few people are like that they want to see what the ffs results will be like before they go ahead with hormones

@Memento: I don't see you as needing any FFS, actually. Especially if you've already had a nose job. You have a great hairline and your face looks good, on the feminine side of androgynous, I'd say.

@Lisa: Honestly, you're a bit ugly and masculine-looking, and your face is definitely very flat and long. I would recommend all the ones you were considering, cheek implants included.

Quote from: Stealthy on April 11, 2012, 07:35:10 AM
@Lisa: Honestly, you're a bit ugly and masculine-looking, and your face is definitely very flat and long. I would recommend all the ones you were considering, cheek implants included.

Thank you for the comments, although stating someone is "ugly" does not provide much constructive feedback.  In the future, it would be more helpful if you stated what features you thought looked masculine. 

Also, I don't believe beauty is tied directly to "passing".  You comment seems to imply that because I have masculine features, I am ugly.  I disagree with that logic.  A trans woman can be beautiful and still have masculine features.  However, in those cases it's more obvious the woman is trans, and that is what I seek to change. 

Yeah, I understand what you're saying. I find androgyny is often beautiful, myself-but your facial features don't say 'androgyny', it says 'unattractive woman with distinctly masculine facial features'. (And not every woman who looks androgynous or masculine is trans-at this point at the very beginning of my FTN transition, I'm read as an androgynous girl, but I'm trans the other way.)

 I believe what the message one might want to get across to you, Stealthy, is that while you are a critic ... and that fact is appreciated... you could word your critiques better, as they come across as insulting at times. You can be nicer and still emphasize the same points to similar effect.