Quote from: kelly_aus on May 01, 2012, 07:24:03 PM
I am a woman, my mind and soul tells me so.. What does it matter if I happen to enjoy fast cars, guns, sports etc? Does this somehow invalidate what my mind and soul is telling me?

Not in my book Kelly...it just makes you and I very much the same!  and that actually makes me feel real good to know there are others out there like me...thank you for just being "you"

Quote from: pretty on May 01, 2012, 04:33:25 PM
Yeah this I guess....

I am happy to live and let live but I feel kinda written off when people say they were raised into masculine interests like they wouldn't have otherwise liked them, when I was raised being pressured into masculine interests but refused to do them and still developed mainly feminine ones instead.

it seems like every post you make is in regards to how feminine vs masculine you are, and that because of that, you should transition.

I'm thinking back to several women that have impacted my life (I'm male for what it's worth).

A woman mentor took me for my first flight in a Cessna 182.  She started a life-long love of aviation in my life.

Another woman science teacher saw and took time to help me as a child pursue my dream.  She encouraged me to explore science, something that still benefits my life.  In my career, I am constantly using the scientific and engineering methods, which I learned from her.

A woman teacher taught me how to make ethernet patch cables and configure routers.  From there, I've been able to enjoy a successful career in the computer field.

As a grown man now, I'm *very* glad these women were in my life, and that they ignored sexist garbage that would imply that these things weren't compatible with true womanhood.  They impacted my life greatly through sharing their natural talents and interests.  Please don't destroy your dreams or ignore your talents!  A woman cannot cease to be a woman!

Quote from: Kelly-087 on May 01, 2012, 07:11:51 PM
This is quite true. But I've found few females while amidst multiplayer halo matches on Xbox Live.

Of course since most of the kids are jerks, I don't blame them.

I know of a gaming community for a particular "masculine" game which did a poll of its members a few years back. It was 99.3% male and 0.7% female.

(One thing worth noting: the real-world analogue of the game has a lot more women.)

There might be lots of female gamers, but some games basically don't attract that many of them...

Quote from: Sarah7 on May 01, 2012, 11:58:02 AM
I'm a girl, so everything I do is a "girl thing."

I remember someone very wise saying something similar a long time ago on this board...

I whole-heartedly agree with that statement... as much as I was inspired by it when I first heard it.

Quote from: Kelly J. P. on May 02, 2012, 01:15:58 AM
I remember someone very wise saying something similar a long time ago on this board...

I whole-heartedly agree with that statement... as much as I was inspired by it when I first heard it.

Ya, it's a quote from Helena. Though I have a feeling she stole it from somewhere too. I figured I should carry on the tradition.

Quote from: FullMoon19 on May 01, 2012, 08:20:38 PM
it seems like every post you make is in regards to how feminine vs masculine you are, and that because of that, you should transition.

Definitely, if you ignore all the other posts I make. 

I don't really do stuff that could be called hobbies, but I have no issues with still doing things that many consider masculine, such as mechanic work, remodeling, welding, etc. 

Heck, I rebuilt my house, doing most of the work myself, since I started transitioning.  I've also dropped in a new piston in a 454 for an rv and do other stuff involving rvs, my lawn mower and anything else I need work done to.

Quote from: Jaime on May 02, 2012, 11:04:09 AM
I don't really do stuff that could be called hobbies, but I have no issues with still doing things that many consider masculine, such as mechanic work, remodeling, welding, etc. 

Heck, I rebuilt my house, doing most of the work myself, since I started transitioning.  I've also dropped in a new piston in a 454 for an rv and do other stuff involving rvs, my lawn mower and anything else I need work done to.

Yeah, if a woman knows how to fix things (well, if anybody knows how to fix things), there's no reason she should stop. Isn't that considered a good thing all around?

Quote from: Forum Admin on May 02, 2012, 01:50:27 PM
Yeah, if a woman knows how to fix things (well, if anybody knows how to fix things), there's no reason she should stop. Isn't that considered a good thing all around?

I agree completely. I am so tired of women who act helpless, like they can't do a bloody thing, knowing some "man" will "save" them. I never realised its true extent until transitioning, and then I started hearing lazy arsed girls say "oh I'll just get a guy to do it for me..." as if its a badge of honour.

They are the reason the reasons myths like these exist, and are perpetuated...

Quote from: Forum Admin on May 02, 2012, 01:50:27 PM
Yeah, if a woman knows how to fix things (well, if anybody knows how to fix things), there's no reason she should stop. Isn't that considered a good thing all around?

Most definitely and I have a few neighbors that would agree also, lol. I'm one of those picky people that have things just right, no shortcuts, used to drive my dad and my brother crazy, but after he and his friends screwed up stuff on his own house that I had to come back and fix, they let up about how much of a perfectionist I am about stuff like that. And I still get some satisfaction about not having to pay anyone for work that I can usually do better in the first place.

The first step, is to stop applying gender roles to hobbies.

Quote from: Dahlia on May 01, 2012, 04:01:46 PM
BS.That sounds like a silly excuse for liking masculine things by nature.  Being interested in (big) gunplay and shooting .

B.S  that sounds like any woman who ever picked up a gun to put meat in the pot is really masculine by nature.
Tell that to the natals women at the shooting range.

Just to really echo what everyone else has already said...

Hobbies are not inherently gendered. There is only the stigmatization attached to them that influences society's perceptions of particular activities as distinctly "masculine" or "feminine."

http://tyneandwear.sky.com/sunderland/video/20071

bunch of masculine naatured women?

Quote from: lilacwoman on May 08, 2012, 02:47:46 AM
http://tyneandwear.sky.com/sunderland/video/20071

bunch of masculine naatured women?

Soccer is for sissies, try some football or rugby. Just kidding!!!

Quote from: Trixie on May 01, 2012, 11:12:26 AM
I... FEEL feminine, and like some feminine things but that doesn't change the other things I like, and what I'm interested in. I like motor racing, guns, aviation, space ships, science... boy things. 

I can't help but feel that my interests... somehow invalidate my feminity. Like, if I'm going to identify as trans, I shouldn't enjoy those things. People won't take my gender identity seriously either I feel, knowing how I am and what I like.

Motor racing - Danica Patrick


Guns - womens Olympic biathlon


Aviation - USAF female pilot


Space ships - Sally Ride


Science - Marie Curie


These ladies might disagree those are "boys" hobbies.

I'm female. I'm not feminine (nor am I masculine), I'm female.

I'm transitioning because I got stuck with a male body and am not supposed to have one of those.

There are billions of different kind of woman. I'm this kind. Be yourself.

How come it's always cars, guns, and airplanes? I am restoring two Mod "A"s, I used to be a big gun enthusiast and am a Life member of the NRA. And I used to own my own plane (C-172) and I'm a licensed pilot. I am also a former Senior Model Maker ( Tool and Diemaker, Machinist) and welder. A former mahogany speedboat owner and enthusiast and for a short while I worked in a zinc mine and am a mineralogy nut.
     Regards, Terri

You don't owe anyone an explanation for why you do the things you do you know...