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Why Straight Men?

Started by Suzy, March 29, 2007, 11:18:09 AM

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Suzy

Well only two emails this past week.  Looks like he's losing momentum.  Just choosing to ignore for now.

Kristi
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Autumn

One of the things I did in the early stages of recognizing my GID was opening an adult site profile (No, no intention to go hook up with a bunch of random guys. I never met anyone.) I didn't do anything too bad, for the most part just some sexy shots of myself. And it felt good to have those appreciated.

It was pretty much the same thing. "Straight" guys. As much as I'd like to think that they were doing what someone else said and looking to the inner woman, that's just not possible from such a detatched level. It's physical, pure and simple.

A lot of young 'bottoms' (women, tg, gays, lesbians - regardless of your orientation, the non dominants) are vulnerable and open to sweet talking or whatever else makes them feel wanted and desired. Someone dealing with such confusion as we do and expressing it at my age is extra vulnerable. Easy target for a hookup.

And gays who think drag queen, or think we're just wearing womens' clothing because we're gay.

Oh, and the other groups were the 40, 50, 55 year old guys. 80% of my mail was from guys twice my age, to significantly older than my father wanting me to be their little girl. Oh god, that was creepy.

I did get contacted by a few crossdressers/TG/TS/etc, which made sense. Though, I really don't have any interest in another MTF or a crossdresser.

I also believe it's internet-obsessed guys into anime dickgirls and ->-bleeped-<- porn, the pathetic creeps. And the confused straight guys who are afraid to explore their sexuality. I feel for the latter because it isn't an easy position to be in, but they don't really understand. Heh, ->-bleeped-<-, i'm TG with bi desires (though I still can't figure out if liking women makes me "gay" or not  ::)) and of course fill everything out/answer as Straight unless it's directly related to me being TG.
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RebeccaFog

Quote from: Autumn on April 18, 2007, 03:39:21 PM
And the confused straight guys who are afraid to explore their sexuality. I feel for the latter because it isn't an easy position to be in, but they don't really understand. Heh, ->-bleeped-<-, i'm TG with bi desires (though I still can't figure out if liking women makes me "gay" or not  ::)) and of course fill everything out/answer as Straight unless it's directly related to me being TG.


   That's odd. You just described me
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Autumn

MTF and preferring women?

Not so odd Rebecca, it seems pretty common for us. And! Most of my GG friends over the years have said women look better than men, and those of us who've lived as men know the quality of most guys :p

Though, let's face it. The real reason we want to find women is the hope that they'll be our size.  :angel:

The gay thing was pretty tongue-in-cheek, the very last concern I have is worrying about labeling that, haha.
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tinkerbell

Well,  I admit that most women that I know take excellent care of themselves, and they do look better than some of my male friends; however, that does not mean that I could ever be sexually attracted to them (women) regardless of how beautiful and fabulous they may be or look.  Yikes!  :icon_yikes: no, no, no, no, no!  :P

tink :icon_chick:
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jeri

i like straight guys, which shouldn't be a surprise. a guy who just wants sex doesn't interest me. being post-op, "->-bleeped-<- ->-bleeped-<-s" looking for that "bridge" to some kind of gay sex stay away from me. a lot of men who have been attracted to me backed off very quickly when i informed them of my history, and that is just as well. i am open about my history to men who give me the signals, if i am interested in them, even though i would just like to put it in the past like any other medical condition. it is a lot easier to be rejected up front, and not after you have developed a friendship. (or more) why tell them at all? i guess because i want to have a real relationship with a real guy who can see me for who i am, with all of my imperfections. i lived a lie for way too long to want to adopt another one. i have a few guys who i am seeing. at my age, they all have baggage. married, recently divorced, seperated, or maybe just not looking to commit. they say you have to kiss a lot of frogs before you will find your prince. i hope not too many... i don't really want much. just an ordinary guy who can be a friend, who really wants to share his life with me.

ps- i don't hate "->-bleeped-<- ->-bleeped-<-s", or women, or gay guys, or guys who just want sex, or anyone. they don't disgust me or frighten me. they just don't interest me or make me feel any attraction.
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Lisbeth

Quote from: Dryad on March 29, 2007, 12:40:08 PM
Ehm..
Well, this creep put aside..

Maybe there are some straight men who recognize the simple fact that you're a woman? I mean; it cán happen. Although I must say that behaving in such a fashion as you described is just...

Yuck.
I don't know.  I used to be spend alot of time with YM turned on so I could see when my friends were on, but no more.  It got so that at least a half dozen guys would be hitting on me for sex every day.  When I got tired of politely telling them to leave me alone, I sometimes would tell them what I really am.  They never failed to turn tail and run.
Quote from: Julie Marie on April 01, 2007, 11:43:44 AM
Kristi, if I told you of all the guys who vowed their dying love for me you'd laugh.  These guys are living in a dream world when on the Internet. 
Oh, lordy!  I had one of those ('cept he wasn't straight) who would call me up on my cell phone and tell me that he worshipped me.  Do you have any idea how creeped out that made me?
Quote from: RebeccaFog on April 05, 2007, 05:44:13 PM
   I finally thought of how to stop that guy.
   Phase 1.   Let him know that you really don't like the communications and that you are feeling he is harassing you. I know you've tried to discourage him and if you feel you've definitely done all you can with that, then go into what I call phase 2.
   Phase 2. Since you have his phone number and you know what he does or where he works for a living, send him notice that you are not flattered by his attention and if he continues harassing you, then you will be forced to call his place of work and notify them of what he is doing on their time. You can be nice and tell him that you don't want to do that, but you will if you feel it is necessary.
Whatever else you do, I suggest you go here:

http://dontdatehimgirl.com/index.html
"Anyone who attempts to play the 'real transsexual' card should be summarily dismissed, as they are merely engaging in name calling rather than serious debate."
--Julia Serano

http://juliaserano.blogspot.com/2011/09/transsexual-versus-transgender.html
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Lucy

Lisbeth sounds like your a real man eater, so they just cant leave you alone, you lucky girl. LOL ;D
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Lisbeth

Quote from: Lucy on April 23, 2007, 12:56:14 PM
Lisbeth sounds like your a real man eater, so they just cant leave you alone, you lucky girl. LOL ;D
ROFLMAO!!!!  Ya, right.  On-line and in-person aren't quite the same.  I don't mind in-person guys checking me out.  I just wish most of them weren't so... old.  Actually that's not true anymore.  Some of them now are of a reasonable age.

Speaking of not leaving me alone, there's this guy at church, Bob.  He acts like he's really interested in me.  Only thing is, he's in his eighties.  Of course, he has me indentified as connected to my kids, but last Sunday he pointed out Deb, my spouse, and referred to her as my "friend. Or is she your mother?"   :laugh:  Nothing like estrogen to give you that youthful look.
"Anyone who attempts to play the 'real transsexual' card should be summarily dismissed, as they are merely engaging in name calling rather than serious debate."
--Julia Serano

http://juliaserano.blogspot.com/2011/09/transsexual-versus-transgender.html
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rhondabythebay

Quote from: Lisbeth on April 25, 2007, 03:18:41 PM
but last Sunday he pointed out Deb, my spouse, and referred to her as my "friend. Or is she your mother?"   :laugh:  Nothing like estrogen to give you that youthful look.

My wife would plotz if she heard something like that. :)

Rhonda
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Lisbeth

Quote from: rhondabythebay on April 26, 2007, 12:22:20 PM
My wife would plotz if she heard something like that. :)
I'm glad mine didn't!
"Anyone who attempts to play the 'real transsexual' card should be summarily dismissed, as they are merely engaging in name calling rather than serious debate."
--Julia Serano

http://juliaserano.blogspot.com/2011/09/transsexual-versus-transgender.html
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Teree

sometimes the simple answer is the best?

maybe he saw a very attractive woman and wanted sex?

crude, but to the point...I think many men are looking for feminine women (most tgirls are more feminine than 'real' women') but they have made a false assumption that 'us' girls are all alike...there are many girls out there exploring their sexuality and 'one bad apple spoils the whole barrel'

Always...Teree
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Starveil

#52
Hopefully nobody will mind me chipping in my two cents, even if they are slightly overdue. I'm a genetic male and consider myself straight (should anyone be wondering: the reason I joined Susan's is because of my girlfriend, who is a post-op m2f).

Most men (the large majority) don't look for a t-girl at all and stick with genetic girls. This is because they either don't know, or because their fragile ego's are too easily overwhelmed and can't handle it (ever notice that sometimes when you tell a man you're m2f, it suddenly becomes about him and how you 'reflect' on him, and not about you?).

There are a few men who don't actively look for a t-girl over a genetic girl, but would have no objections dating one or having a serious relationship with one. To them, it makes no difference if a girl is a genetic female or a t-girl. I fit in this category. They're both women, and if you're into women, what's the problem?

Then there are men who actively pursue t-girls over genetic girls. Some of them (albeit few) do so because they are looking for certain qualities which genetic females don't possess in equal measure, the femininity (sp?) thing, for example. One of the things I like the most about my girlfriend (apart from her eyes) is that she behaves way more feminine than any genetic girl I've ever met. I was drawn to her because of that, so I can understand if some men are actively looking for those qualities (I wasn't).

The other kind of man who actively pursues t-girls over genetic girls is the one who does so for the wrong reasons. They aren't interested in the person herself at all, they are only interested in sex with a t-girl exactly because she is a t-girl . The fact she's a transsexual is objectified (=they don't look at t-girls as people, but like objects that are there to fill their urges). It is made into a fetish, which they want to satisfy. They have no interest whatsoever in the people themselves, and (ab)use them to get their own way. They aren't interested in a genuine, real relationship. Their family and friends don't know about their "fetish" and they want to keep it hidden from their surroundings. They are lavish with words but will never back them up. These are the ->-bleeped-<-s. Unfortunately it seems most men who approach t-girls fall into this category :(. Sometimes it can be difficult to discern if they're being genuine or not.

I'm not saying every men can be categorised as such, but from what my girlfriend told me I think many can.
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Cindy

Hi Kristie
This may have been covered as I went to the end of the  thread. I've had a similar experience and talked through it. He wanted sex, nothing else just sex. Very basic, oral and anal. I'm not a threat to his girl friend.  I look attractive enough to overcome his sexual doubts (presumption). I'm just a sex object, he was doing me a favour. He was a prick, mentally and physically. I was very tempted even knowing where he came from. I enjoy oral and was interested, but then realised he was just into using me. His straight GF or wife would suffer; and lord knows where he had stuck it before.

Nasty Guys are sometimes attractive

Cindy
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