Edge, your body definitely passes as male to me. Face is harder to tell though.

Edge, to me you definitely pass but as Hayzer said, your age appears to be about a 13-14 year old teen. Usually the only thing that can solve that problem is T, so if you plan on going on it that should help you in the future. It sucks to pass so young and have people interact with you that way when you're much older.

Got the side of my hair trimmed again since it was growing out funny. Does it look better or worse do you think? And passing wise, do I still just look dykish? (I think my other pic was on the previous page lol)

JayKyle, I'm not sure whether or not it is better or worse, but I don't really think you pass in this picture. Most times I have seen that sort of hairstyle it has been on females, so it takes the ambiguous features of your face and makes me think female.

Jaykyle, I like the hair but it doesn't allow you to pass...

I think only someone on T would ever be able to pull that off and still look male

Quote from: henri on July 22, 2012, 01:52:52 PM
JayKyle, I'm not sure whether or not it is better or worse, but I don't really think you pass in this picture. Most times I have seen that sort of hairstyle it has been on females, so it takes the ambiguous features of your face and makes me think female.

This

@ JayKyle:

I read you as androgynous in that picture.  Not androgynous female or androgynous male.  Just androgynous.  If I saw you in person I probably wouldn't have a clue as to how I should address you and would probably go off of your mannerisms and voice.  If you walked like a dude, dressed liked a dude, and spoke like a dude, then I'd go with male pronouns.  If not, then I'd probably use female pronouns.  Or none at all. 

The hairstyle, I think, is what makes me read androgynous but I've seen it on a lot of guys where I live.

JayKyle:  You look pretty similar to a cismale friend of mine who either identifies as andro or female (I don't really know which) in both facial features and hair, which throws me off quite a lot.  If you had facial hair/stubble then I'd read you as male, but otherwise I'd not be sure at all.  I feel like more tapered hair/black hair would look more masculine if you wanted to keep it roughly in that style but I don't know if that's the look you're going for or if it really would make much difference.  I'd probably not have a clue how to read you and go off your body/mannerisms/what name you told me (but if your name is Jay Kyle I might still be confused but leaning more to the male side of confused).  From what I can see your shoulders seem pretty broad and masculine though.

@arawn one of my male friends convinced me to go with this style out of many i had tentively picked. And at this point in time, andro is better than female, so that makes me happy lol

@AlecSky I'm actually thinking about dying it with black/indigo henna (the herbal not salon junk) but im not sure how it will turn out either. As for the cut, it probably needs a slight bit more tweeking but I can't seem to find a stylist that cuts it just right but I won't have to wait too long for it to grow out and I can get it fixed or see how things turn out.

Thanks for the input guys!

edge- def male to me. maybe around 19 years old.

Quote from: Nygeel on July 14, 2012, 12:44:16 AM

Ended up buzzing it off.

nygeel you look good are you still loosing weight because its working although your eyes still look very pretty which looks a bit feminine but you definitely pass in this picture.

got a haircut. pass? tips? do i look 14?

Quote from: ty.to.the.man on July 23, 2012, 07:14:09 PM
got a haircut. pass? tips? do i look 14?

yes, it's a definite pass. and you do look about 13-14. it's hard on us all to look older without t... i'm 22 and people still think i'm like 14. lol.

Yeah, you definitely pass ty, but you do look pretty young.

Quote from: Wil Najera on July 23, 2012, 08:23:06 PM
yes, it's a definite pass. and you do look about 13-14. it's hard on us all to look older without t... i'm 22 and people still think i'm like 14. lol.

He is on Androgel and I believe he asked if he is read around age fourteen as a male because that's how old he actually is. ;p

Quote from: ty.to.the.man on July 23, 2012, 07:14:09 PM
got a haircut. pass? tips? do i look 14?

Yep. Male and 14ish.

Quote from: JasonRX on July 23, 2012, 10:02:38 PM
He is on Androgel and I believe he asked if he is read around age fourteen as a male because that's how old he actually is. ;p

This - I THOUGHT he was on androgel .. glad someone else said that so I didn't feel like I was going mad

Ty you seriously pass really well. You look around 14.. I would believe 15 or 16 as well. I wish I could have started T when I was a teenager haha

Ty is such a blessed kid.

He should definitely give me a call in 4 years.

Quote from: Aeris on July 24, 2012, 02:15:27 AM
Ty is such a blessed kid.

He should definitely give me a call in 4 years.

If only you'd stop aging too.

So, I always hated getting my picture taken, it's totally different from self-shots where you have control over the final outcome.


I pass in real life, haven't gotten "she'd" in a long time... but yeah how'm I looking?