Wishlist for now:
Mandatory:
- Hairline advancement and/or frontal bone reshaping
- Thyroid cartilage remodelation (Adam's apple) ( With another surgery)
- Nasal Surgery
- Corner lift / whatever can restore simery to my mouth.

Interested:
- Upper Lip Lifting
- Jaw / Chin
- Cheek implant
- dermabrasion

Uhm... my face is just like yours. I have deep set eyes and the strong brow. So does my daughter and she's one of the most beautiful creatures on the planet. Seriously. Check out Brooke Shields if you don't believe me (no, Brooke isn't mine... I'm just sayin). I didn't have FFS. Worry about it later. You have other things to worry about. My facial fat changed significantly and it wasn't entirely to HRT. In fact, just getting rid of my five o'clock shadow was the single best thing I could have done. I started that long before anything else. I just told the electrologist that I wanted to prevent ingrown hairs. She was cool with it. I didn't tell her for months!

Apples - first, your photos are not disgusting.  This is you and only very few are gifted with great feminine features right at the beginning.

If I were in your shoes, I'd take measurements to remove the facial hair at first. Just the smoother look of your skin will provide a much less masculine appearance. Also, you would find make-up being much more effective as it would be right now. Certainly, this is a procedure which would take time. I lost the majority of black and thick hair after a year with laser hair removal.

I've seen a lot of good to very good results with FFS. But even with FFS, you would still need to get rid of the facial hair.

I'm on hormones for seven or eight years now. Definitely there have been changes to my face and I can pass pretty well with a little make-up applied. In some cases hormones only do the job for somebody's face but I'm still unhappy. It depends on you (and of course on your budget and "threshold for toil") whether you would like FFS right now or maybe after a while of hormonal exposure.

And don't bury your head in the sand. I'm sure there is still a lot of potential for change in your body only that it cannot happen from one moment to the next.

All the best! 

Quote from: Apples on July 31, 2012, 03:48:37 AM
Good morning. Just a doubt I was having. I still keep thinking about going MTF, but at 29 my face is rather unpassable. A prominent brow bone, deep set eyes and a gigantic nose (this is what I hate most about me. I don't have the strenght or time to do a full FFS, but if I could at least do one or two things to improve my appearance and help me pass a bit more... Which ones would be the most effective ones to get a bit more effeminated look?

More or less I look like this now (still afraid to crossdress or start with makeup, but just a matter of time) on my hideous morning face:

Warning: Really disgusting photos.

[url=https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-C0_kj1zS95U/UAlkp3y5IQI/AAAAAAAABIA/ffYt1Xv7zsE/s640/_MG_3650.jpg]https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-C0_kj1zS95U/UAlkp3y5IQI/AAAAAAAABIA/ffYt1Xv7zsE/s640/_MG_3650.jpg[/url]

[url=https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1gPYEUE571s/UBI9wE6weRI/AAAAAAAABJo/4zfaW0x9R_o/s669-c-k/2012%2B09%253A05%253A33.jpg]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1gPYEUE571s/UBI9wE6weRI/AAAAAAAABJo/4zfaW0x9R_o/s669-c-k/2012%2B09%253A05%253A33.jpg[/url]

[url=http://i.imgur.com/9shjA.jpg]http://i.imgur.com/9shjA.jpg[/url]

[url=http://i.imgur.com/kLWzx.jpg]http://i.imgur.com/kLWzx.jpg[/url]

I don't know. The gender dysphoria kicks at different levels during the week, but when I see my face, I cannot stand it, and it just keeps getting worse with time. Combined with HRT, Do I have any hopes or should I get back to weightlifting?

is it just your face you feel dysphoric about or your body too ?

Quote from: mementomori on August 01, 2012, 06:19:23 AM
is it just your face you feel dysphoric about or your body too ?

The body too, although I have more hopes for my body than my face.

a face can be changed  ALOT with surgety so don' t worry about that

look how mauscline she was beforehand

The problem is that my face still gets over me as the main factor stopping me from moving forward. Some thing can be hidden, others not. I don't know how will I look in a future. That femilife clinic I keep hearing about sounds interesting, but the problem would be getting all the money. If I want to move from my parents home, that would mean no money for years. I've been saving for years for a home and I could possibly pay it now, but... It will mean spending half of my savings from the last 5 years. Maybe I should delay leaving?

 
Sweetie, in the end ALL is a question of priorities. The money that will be available to you will be gone for other things if you decide to wait.

I had a very similar situation and decided I can do with a lot less of other stuff but had to move on with FFS. In my case age also plays a roll of course. So I DID IT.

Pray for guidance and direction - and then move in the right direction.

That's what I did...

Axélle

I agree with Axelle spend the money on ffs 

Quote from: mementomori on August 01, 2012, 06:41:16 AM
a face can be changed  ALOT with surgety so don' t worry about that

look how mauscline she was beforehand

First of all: you need A LOT of money to have tons and tons of surgery like she had.


Second: choosing between looking (slightly) masculine and totally plastic, fake, overdone, even alien is an easy one for me personally:


I'd rather remain looking slightly masculine and natural than ending up looking like that.

What does she look like without make up and her wig/hairextentions?


How the hell will she look like when she grows older??

Quote from: Apples on July 31, 2012, 03:48:37 AM
Good morning. Just a doubt I was having. I still keep thinking about going MTF, but at 29 my face is rather unpassable. A prominent brow bone, deep set eyes and a gigantic nose (this is what I hate most about me. I don't have the strenght or time to do a full FFS, but if I could at least do one or two things to improve my appearance and help me pass a bit more... Which ones would be the most effective ones to get a bit more effeminated look?

More or less I look like this now (still afraid to crossdress or start with makeup, but just a matter of time) on my hideous morning face:

Warning: Really disgusting photos.

[url=https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-C0_kj1zS95U/UAlkp3y5IQI/AAAAAAAABIA/ffYt1Xv7zsE/s640/_MG_3650.jpg]https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-C0_kj1zS95U/UAlkp3y5IQI/AAAAAAAABIA/ffYt1Xv7zsE/s640/_MG_3650.jpg[/url]

[url=https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1gPYEUE571s/UBI9wE6weRI/AAAAAAAABJo/4zfaW0x9R_o/s669-c-k/2012%2B09%253A05%253A33.jpg]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1gPYEUE571s/UBI9wE6weRI/AAAAAAAABJo/4zfaW0x9R_o/s669-c-k/2012%2B09%253A05%253A33.jpg[/url]

[url=http://i.imgur.com/9shjA.jpg]http://i.imgur.com/9shjA.jpg[/url]

[url=http://i.imgur.com/kLWzx.jpg]http://i.imgur.com/kLWzx.jpg[/url]

I don't know. The gender dysphoria kicks at different levels during the week, but when I see my face, I cannot stand it, and it just keeps getting worse with time. Combined with HRT, Do I have any hopes or should I get back to weightlifting?

The first picture looks terrible because it's taken from below the face and all the shadows the overhead lightning casts.


On the other pictures you look nice, soft features, soft eyes. Deepset eyes aren't ugly at all...


I agree with the others: get rid of your beardshadow first and hormones will soften your features as well.

Quote from: Dahlia on August 02, 2012, 03:27:11 PM

How the hell will she look like when she grows older??

Like Petunia from Futurama?





Agreed, the transgered beauty comes from the mixture of facial fetures, at least for me. I guess the best is not worry a lot about this until some time after starting transition. Reducing the apple could be more than enough for me.

Quote from: Dahlia on August 02, 2012, 03:27:11 PM

First of all: you need A LOT of money to have tons and tons of surgery like she had.


Second: choosing between looking (slightly) masculine and totally plastic, fake, overdone, even alien is an easy one for me personally:


I'd rather remain looking slightly masculine and natural than ending up looking like that.

What does she look like without make up and her wig/hairextentions?


How the hell will she look like when she grows older??

i guess everyone has different desires , id sacrifice natural looks for femininity in my face even if it meant looking really done and artificial

Quote from: Dahlia on August 02, 2012, 03:27:11 PM

First of all: you need A LOT of money to have tons and tons of surgery like she had.


Second: choosing between looking (slightly) masculine and totally plastic, fake, overdone, even alien is an easy one for me personally:


I'd rather remain looking slightly masculine and natural than ending up looking like that.

What does she look like without make up and her wig/hairextentions?

she spent around 200,000 over ten years on surgery thats doable with a full time job if you dont have kids and live a expensive lifestyle otherwise i guess

she got it through sex work though


How the hell will she look like when she grows older??

Today I paid a free visit to a surgery clinic (normal one), to check about my face status. Looks like, yes, I am in need of a blepharoplasty, even in my current status.


I would do these things later, maybe one year after HRT, but the only things I would touch about my are reducing the brone and fixing the eyelids, plus the adam's apple reduction. Maybe Rynophasty in a future, but that is enough to make me feel better.




For now, I am sticking with hair removal, and maybe remove two skin imperfections that really get on my nerves.

Hi Apples,
In all honesty, I don't find your face offensive in any, way, shape or form.

HRT, a three hour session at any beauty salon, the right hair and you'll pass anywhere. The HRT, you'll have to let it run its course over a few years, then correct whatever, if ever, what's necessary.

Your first endeavours into transitioning should be, (1) Voice and (2) developing that woman within. She is the one that when affirmed and validated will shine from the inside out. Making it impossible for any one to believe you are not the authentic one. It's here the rubber meets the road.

If your inner woman isn't working, NO external modifications will convince any one, that you are nothing but a man in a dress.

Rid yourself of GID through GCS and then work on anything else. If there is anything else after that.

Be safe, well and happy
Lotsa huggs
Catherine

Biggest problem is that I can't know what is to be a woman, and will never know after I start HRT. I can't see many differences in the daily routine. And still not sure about if I am something in the middle.


And can't practice anything if living with my parents.

Hi Apples,

Quote from: Apples on August 04, 2012, 12:26:47 PM
Biggest problem is that I can't know what is to be a woman,

OK. Solution. (1) Relax. (2) watch, observe, listen and study women. Get as close to them as possible and just study their habits. This exercise alone will in some way, shape or form, will formalise your understanding of yourself.

Quote from: Apples on August 04, 2012, 12:26:47 PM
and will never know after I start HRT.

Correction. You'll have a greater understanding. Not only does estrogen and the reduction of 'T' in your system have physical ramifications, there are also major psychological changes that occur as well.

Quote from: Apples on August 04, 2012, 12:26:47 PM
I can't see many differences in the daily routine.

It's not until you experience 'weightlessness' that you appreciate the principles behind it.

Quote from: Apples on August 04, 2012, 12:26:47 PM
And still not sure about if I am something in the middle.

The sooner you progress through the therapy system, the sooner you'll have a greater understanding of yourself.

Quote from: Apples on August 04, 2012, 12:26:47 PM
And can't practice anything if living with my parents.

I tend to disagree. Necessity is the mother of invention. If you need to operate in 'stealth' for your own psychological wellbeing, then operate in stealth. After all, this is your life, not some one Else's. Practice you voice in your bedroom or some other isolated region of the home. If you are committed, there is no such word as 'can't'

Huggs
Catherine

Quote from: Catherine Sarah on August 04, 2012, 12:59:17 PM
Correction. You'll have a greater understanding. Not only does estrogen and the reduction of 'T' in your system have physical ramifications, there are also major psychological changes that occur as well.

Sorry, my bad. I meant to say "and will never know until I start HRT".

QuoteIt's not until you experience 'weightlessness' that you appreciate the principles behind it.

I hope, I hope. Whenever I walk I feel like riding a tank.



PS: One weird thing. Usually I had to milk the small guy almost every day to have a bit of mind peace, and since I started with all of this my libido is almost dead. Weird, isn't it?

Quote from: Apples on August 04, 2012, 01:06:42 PM

Sorry, my bad. I meant to say "and will never know until I start HRT".




I hope, I hope. Whenever I walk I feel like riding a tank.



PS: One weird thing. Usually I had to milk the small guy almost every day to have a bit of mind peace, and since I started with all of this my libido is almost dead. Weird, isn't it?

its dead even without hormones ?